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So what's her name?

  • First: Padmé, Middle: Amidala, Last: Naberrie
  • or is it like the Pope where her "official" name is Amidala.

Thanks! WhiteBoy 22:21, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think that her official name was only Amidala during her time as queen (maybe?). I'd say that "Padmé Amidala Naberrie" would be her official name. Unfortunately, this would result in virtually every link to this article being via a redirect. This wouldn't be the end of the world, though. It would be the same sort of situation as what you did with X-wing starfighter. (Of course, there's always her married name of "Skywalker"... buahaha). -- Aidje 23:44, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • It's hard to say without knowing the tradition of the Nabooo. Most state names are kept until death, but with the peculiar Queen process of the Naboo, it is difficult to say. How is she refered to in EPII? I forget if they call her Senator Amidala. If so, it is safe to say that she would drop Naberrie entirely, or put it inbetween Padmé and Amidala. A seperate issue is whether she took the name Skywalker, or if Nabooian or Tatooinean culture encourage/accept that practice. Does a source list her with Skywalker at the end of her name? --SparqMan 02:47, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Birth Name=Padmé Naberrie. Royal Name=Amidala. Senatorial Name=Padmé Amidala QuentinGeorge 08:57, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
  • So if the head of the article says "Padmé Naberrie Amidala Skywalker", and we use the married names for Leia, why not Padmé? --SparqMan 18:50, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Since her marriage was secret, I doubt that she changed her name to Skywalker. That would be a dead giveaway. – Aidje talk 19:33, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I agree and unlike Leia, we have no reference of her being refered to or prefering to include her husband's name. I think Skywalker should be struck from the article top-line. --SparqMan 19:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Its seems only right to stick with prescident and add Skywalker to the end of her name. She never formally added it herself but this was only out of necessity.

        • Yeah, well, I don't think that her marriage to Anakin Skywalker ever became public knowledge. Not to mention the fact that it is not unusual for women who have attained a certain degree of notariaty and fame to keep their maiden name and not take their husband's at marriage. So I think it should be kept as-is, unless some canon source for her taking the name of Skywalker can be found. I mean, with Leia it makes sense, as she is referred to by her married name of Solo on several occassions. Chervil 20px 03:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Name is confusing, I think their surnames depends on what they want it to be. I mean her sister didn't take her own husband's name. And her nieces (sister's daughters) took their mother's last name. 24.14.120.92 01:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Technically, her full name at the time of her death would be Her Excellency Senator Padme Amidala Naberrie Skywalker of Naboo (phew) but officially she is Her Excellency Senator Padme Amidala Naberrie of Naboo, because no one really knows that she is married. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Successor in the Senate

I am unaware of any source that says that Jar Jar succeeded Padme as the Senator for Naboo. As such, I'm removing it. If anyone can come up with a source (rather than mere conjecture) for where this comes from, I'll add it back in. QuentinGeorge 06:11, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I think that her full name is Padme Naberrie Amidala Skywalker. She went by Amaidala so her family wouldn't be attacked by people that didn't like her.

I think her full name would be Padme Amidala Naberrie Skywalker, actually. Amidala was a regnal name to make her seem more important, do you think John Howard changed his name so his family won't be attacked? Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Padme Length of Life?

I am confused as to the length of Padme's life. We were lead to believe in Return of the Jedi, that Leia recalled her mother (she stated that she was kind, beautiful and sad) and that she died when Leia was very young, suggesting perhaps that she lived the early part of her life with her. However, Padme dies at Leia and Luke's birth, making it impossible for either child to remember her. I thought perhaps Leia was refering to her adoptive mother, but this cannot be accurate, as her adoptive mother died when the planet Alderaan was destroyed (and when Leia was grown). Has anyone else noticed this, and can perhaps shed some light on this matter? Could Leia really have remembered her mother from such an early age?

  • Has it been confirmed that her mother died with Alderaan, and not of some other cause long before the loss of Alderaan? Because this is the only solution that has made sense to me. JSarek 00:12, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
    • No, it's not been confirmed that Breha died with Alderaan's destruction. As JSarek said, Breha could be the mother Leia remembered. Or it could be some mysterious Force-related memory. QuentinGeorge 06:09, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I gathered it was Force related- Padmé was in a pretty emotional state when she gave birth, resulting in Leia sensing it unconciously. --Fade 07:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I, too, took it as being Force-related. I believe her mother was killed in with the Alderaan explosion, and our own article says as much. WhiteBoy 07:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I dont want to confused anyone more than I'm sure everyone else has, but to add to more questioning on Leia's part, go read ROTJ(the novel) where Luke is asking her about her mother, its vaguely mentions Leia remember not only her sad and kind mother, BUT a trunk? yeah, what was that about? Another writer's mistake I think!--Kaosburning 03:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

As to the question of this being a force related power it is a two sided problem. On the one hand I am geared toward this perhaps being a force power of infant awareness that Leia has come to develop and perhaps even passed on to her children. One of whom while still in the womb even managed to tip the balance in a force duel between Luke,Leia and the clones of Emperor Palpatine in "Planet of Twilight". I feel that this might also explain why Leia would exhibit so much of Padme's politically defiant personality, being that perhaps during her childhood she was abled to retain a force impression of her mother..this impression may have been imprinted in the force by the powerful connection Vader bonded with Padme as they both lay unconscious..the one that killed her. How luke was unabled to retain or gain such an impression and Leia was is not quite understandable to me perhaps it is a feminine bond that mother and daughter shared. Also Why Vader was unabled to sense the family connection from Leia during her capture on the Death Star, but was abled to do so with Luke in "Empire Strikes Back" is also a part of this issue, or did he just know from his use of the skywalker surname (did Vader personally kill the Lars and get the information about Luke?) It begs the Question what role does gender play in the developement of force senses? On the other hand How Leia could possess such power and still not be aware of her heritage(indeed she rejected her heritage and consequently, her force power even after her it was revealed to her due to her hatred of Vader) is also an issue with this theory, but not so much so since a force sensitive is powerful no matter if they are or are not aware of it.

Replacement?

"Due to tension between George Lucas and Natalie Portman in 2003, Lucas reportedly asked Keira Knightley (Sabé from Episode I) if she would be willing to play Padmé in Episode III; she declined, however, as she was busy filing King Arthur (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349683/combined)." What is the source for that?

  • It's a ridiculous rumour from IMDB and should be removed. Natalie was always contracted to do all three. QuentinGeorge 22:47, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • IMDB relies on (often unverified) user submitted data, and therefore should NOT be regarded as confirmation. This rumour should be removed unless a reputable source (like the OS) agrees with it. QuentinGeorge 04:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Not only IMDb reported the rumor, Keira Knightley herself even said something about it. And it doesn't even matter if it was true or not - the point is, there was a rumor that existed that was circulated at some point, and as such, deserves mention. Kuralyov 04:12, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Then show me the source that says it then. QuentinGeorge 04:36, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Two minutes of searching gave me this: "...As for Portman, rumors began to circulate that she was unhappy, and looking for a way out of her contract. According to one Internet story, Lucas had even sounded out Keira Knightley about taking over Portman's role for the final film, due in theaters in 2005." If you want the original story on the original page, however, then yiu're welcome to sift through 2-year-old archives.

Like I said, even if the rumor isn't true (it probably wasn't, as you pointed out), the fact that it existed at all means it should be mentioned here. That's all it said, was that it was a rumor. Or should I delete all unsubstantiated rumors mentioned on various articles here? Kuralyov 05:17, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I think it should be deleted from this page. Dylankidwell 02:46, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Cause of death

Did Padmé die from anything Anakin did? Sure, his Force choke may have injured her momentarily, but it hardly seemed enough to threaten her life. It seemed more likely that she died from birth complications, or other mysterious circumstances. I did not read the end of the novelization with great care, and may have missed the explicit explanation. Any help? --SparqMan 00:51, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • I figured it was a broken heart. Lame, I know, but it apparently does happen. And it's apparently reversible, too. I guess the med droids weren't aware of this research. :-) – Aidje talk 04:20, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • Or to put it another way "she gave up the will to live". In other words, her injuries weren't life threatening, but the stress of the events of the past weeks led to complications. QuentinGeorge 06:06, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
      • Google T-Bone's blog for that. 07:58, Jan 2006 (UTC)
        • Another option was thought of: Anakin used force Drain on her. Explains why he was able to survive the burns Revan 04:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
          • As mentionned above, T-Bones blog clearly states she died of broken heart. Without the Force choke however, it may not have been deadly methinks...--Petiflo 17:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
            • Well the force choke is definitely not the cause of death for Padme. Yes, it knocked her out, but she was still alive. It was the "will to live" thing she died from. The last sentence in the "Post Mortem" section needs to be revised, unless that is the way Luke thinks she died. However, this needs to be noted that the force choke is not what killed her. --Taybo20 22:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I think Luke thought it was how she died at first, but he later views a recording where the droid states that "medically, she's completely healthy... etc." So he should know that the Force-choke didn't kill his mother. 74.173.214.216 14:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I believe Palpatine killed her, perhaps through some kind of Force drain or choke. This would have ensured that Vader would remained angry and full of bitter guilt. Palpatine outright tells Vader that Vader killed her, but Palpatine was not there and would not have known unless he was involved in the death. It would also have prevented Padme from getting in the way in the future. DontWakeDaddy 20:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that it was a combination of emotional upheaval (the betrayal of Anakin and the whole broken heart thing), the Force Choke and the birth complications that caused her death. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Palace portrait

So Leia walks past a picture of Padme, and still doesn't recognize her in 25 years later? In fact, should't Padme be some sort of mythical hero in Imperial Culture, do to bringing about Palpatine's election? -- SFH 15:02, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • Unseen Queen actually clarifies that Luke and Leia knew who "Senator Padme Amidala" was, they just never knew that she was their mother. QuentinGeorge 20:14, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • And yes, I agree that Amidala's history and association to Palpatine (and the fact her rebellious leanings remained secret) would have made the Empire laud her as a martyr figure for propaganda purposes, and no doubt that is why Palpatine hung the portrait in the Imperial Palace. QuentinGeorge 08:50, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
      • That's a nice theory. But, it it seems that the people of the GFFA circa 0 BBY and beyond simply forgot about here. Nobody ever mentions her in the OT except for that scene in ROTJ when Luke asks Leia if she rememebers their mother. Jed-eye 11:52, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        • That could be fixed easily enough: amend QG's theory to "...made the early Empire laud...". After all, by the OT, the Palpatine election was 32 years past, and Padme had been dead for 19 years, so the Imps likely had newer and more relevant propaganda symbols to trumpet.--Valin Kenobi 05:16, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • I have been wondering about this. If Leia claimed that she remembered Padme in ROTJ, why is it she can't recgnize her mother in that portrait? Besides, haven't Leia noticed that this "Senator Padme Amidala" kinda looks a lot like her mother whom she claimed that she could remember as "beautiful, kind, but sad"? Even though she said that she could only remember her "just a little bit". - Divinity 11:59, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, you sort of answered your own question there. It's unlikely that Leia had a perfect image of her ingrained in her head; and if she did it's even more unlikely that any woman would look the same when comparing what she looked like when giving birth (not to mention crying for Anakin), and what she looked like when posing for a senatorial portrait. --MarcK [talk] 12:05, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Also, consider that the panel was drawn right after Portman was cast, thus the portait was likely made around the TPM era (perhaps right after newly elected Chancellor Palpatine moved into the Palace, he commissioned the portrait?) ... thus you'd also consider the additional difference in appearance between 14 years old and 27.--Valin Kenobi 05:21, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        • The artwork was done in 1997 - when Natalie Portman was 16. Hence, if it is a depiction of Padme at the same age, it's a portrait of Padme in 30 BBY - QuentinGeorge 12:28, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)
          • Sure, but Natalie was 16 when she played Padme aged 14 in TPM. So Padme at age 14 looks like Natalie at age 16. Of course, Padme at 24 and 27 looks like Natalie at 19 and 22 respectively, but we won't go into that. :p--Valin Kenobi 17:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

"well-toned stomach"

"Padmé had a close encounter with a nexu that ripped the buttom part of her shirt, completely exposing her well-toned stomach."

Is this really necessary???

Nope, but fun to think about! ;) Adamwankenobi 12:42, 15 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • White cut-off....WHITE...CUT OFF!! Revan 04:22, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Excellency?

Were Senators addressed as "Excellency"? If yes, then we should correct Palpatine's Styles of Address section as well. - Sikon [Talk] 17:52, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I think so. So we should change Palpatine's section. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Training

Didn't Panaka give Padme some training. Like, fighting training so in case she needed to fight she could?

First appearance?

Why is it listed that she first appeared in TPM, when her likeness was first seen in a painting in The Last Command 5? Adamwankenobi 23:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

  • All taken care of, move along... ;) --Imp 23:51, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Episode III Profile Promo versus Episode II Wallpaper

thumb|leftObjections? --Redemption 03:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC) I think its a great pic.--Dil 01:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Full-body pics are generally less good. This one's better, IMO. -LtNOWIS 01:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I'd prefer if she didn't have the "Leia hair", but don't let that stop you. -- SFH 03:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Her "rumifications" robe alright? --Redemption 04:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

File:Padmeprofilegreen.png|thumb|right

  • No need for "versus". In Greece there's a saying: "Όλοι οι καλοί χωράνε", which roughly means: "It fits as long as it's good". I put both in the article, though the one where she has her hood up is much better for main pic. --Master Starkeiller 13:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I like a picture of her as Queen; in traditional costume.

Quote relevance

I don't think the quote on the top of this page, taken from Leia's comment in ROTJ, really applies anymore because it's established that she was referring to her foster mother, Bail Organa's wife, and did not know Amidala any more than Luke had.

  • That's not correct. Leia is referring to Padmé. QuentinGeorge 22:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Obviously, Leia is talking about her REAL MOTHER, who, in my opinion, is the best character of all the Saga: Padmé. Hammu Amidala
  • I concur with Hammu Amidala. Lord Aco
    • Of course you do: you are Hammu Amidala's sockpuppet. —Silly Dan (talk) 02:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Ouch. But, on topic, the quote definitely is about Padmé- Luke asks her, after all, "Do you remember your mother? Your real mother?" Padmé knew full well that Bail Organa's wife was not her real mother. Is it unrealistic that a newborn baby would remember her first twenty-second glimpse of another human? Of course. But, regardless, Leia could not have been referring to anyone but Padmé. --Thetoastman 16:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
        • I'm so glad to read you people saying that. I've had such a hard time on french forums with this plot-hole I thought I was the only one to think that way. Tell me, did Lucas state himself that Leia is indeed talking about Padmé or is any other official source ?--Petiflo 17:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
        • The Force is a universal plothole-filler, you just need to make stuff up more or less believably. - Sikon [Talk] 17:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
          • Sikon and (despite the puppetry) Hammu Amidala are entirely correct. Maxi big, the Force. —Silly Dan (talk) 03:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Either way i think the quite should be "...I truly deeply love you."

DarthVaderwillriseagain 02:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)DarthVaderwillriseagain

    • That's not a quote about Padme, and hence is not suitable. QuentinGeorge 06:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

then teh quote should be, "It's funny Padme, because you act as if you're prohibited, adn your're not, while Anakin acts as if he's under no prohibitions, and he is!" OR "You're so tied up in your responsibilities that you don't give any weight to your desires." Both are quotes of Sola describing her sister. DarthVaderwillriseagain 20:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)DarthVaderwillriseagain

  • Too specific. "Beautiful, kind but sad" is perfect. --Redemption 17:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I agree. It's also (a) how we were introduced to the character in reality, and (b) a lead-in to the statement in the BTS section that Leia was indeed remembering Padmé. —Silly Dan (talk) 17:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Then let's go for it. Unprotecting the page. - Sikon [Talk] 19:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

A vandal erased the whole page.

Revert it we mustYoda 16:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

whats with the goarge bush picture

  • Someone vandalised the main image. Reload, it should be OK now. —Silly Dan (talk) 01:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Force Sensitivity

In a AOTC deleted scene Yoda says to Padme that she is strong in the force or something like that. Is Padme force sensitive or was he referring to the unborn twins.

  • I hardly think one could sense twins that were not conceived for another two years. But no, she's not Force sensitive, at least not so-much-so for it to be noticable; otherwise Anakin would have picked up on it, surely? Besides, bear in mind it's a deleted line - Kwenn 21:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
    • It's in the novelisation. "With you the Force is strong, Senator Amidala". But whatever. (195.92.168.170 00:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC))

I'd like to believe that she was force sensitive. I think she is actually listed in the new Star Wars Databank under "force sensitives" (and people do tend to be more force sensitive than some other species). I think that might make her eligible for the netherworld of the force, even though she doesn't appear in movies as a force ghost.

And by the way, Anakin did pick up on her being force sensitive. He reached out to her through the Force just before going to confront Palpatine/Windu as he sat in the Jedi council room and she was in her apartment. It says in the novelization of ROTS that they were spiritually in the room with each other. I think when he woke up as Darth Vader he also reached out through the Force to search for her but didn't feel it (don't hold me to this though)

Delegation of 2000

  • Since Padme was part of the delegation of 2000 shouldn't there be a section or a little more info on her role in that organization. JainaSolo32 23:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Question about Ellie

Where in The Phantom Menace does this character appear? I have scoured the novelization and cannot find any reference to her or the title Princess of Theed. Dmoon1 06:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

  • She's an extra from TPM, played by Madison Lloyd (sister of Jake). Her backstory is probably elaborated in one of the Episode I guides. QuentinGeorge 06:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the tip. Dmoon1 15:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
      • During the parade at the end of the film. She's the little girl standing behind Anakin - Kwenn 15:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
        • Do you know what guide or source book this is in? That's what I was looking for. Dmoon1 04:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Question about Leia

Near the end of the "Last days" section, the article says that "Padmé Amidala managed to give birth to twins, Luke Skywalker and Leia Amidala Skywalker." Should Leia be referred to as "Leia Amidala Skywalker?" After all, there's no reference to Padmé putting "Amidala" in her name. Should it be "Leia Organa," "Leia Organa Solo," or something entirely different? -GrammarVader 19:44, 6 Sept 2006(UTC)

  • Leia Amidala Skywalker was her name until the Organas adopted her. So that's correct at the time. The article mentions the name change in the next section. -Finlayson 03:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Uh... question? Don't mean to bring this up again after all this time but where does it say that Leia was named "Amidala Skywalker." I mean, I understand she wasn't originally an Organa so she'd probably be Skywalker but I know it doesn't say it in the film. Does it come up in the novelization? If so then the source that is pointed next to the reference shouldn't say the film because that simply isn't true. I'm not saying it isn't canonical (it may well be - I haven't read the book) but the source listed is false. --Niirfa-sa 01:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Name

Should it be Padmé Amidala Skywalker?--Darth OblivionComlink20px 01:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Technically it should, because she is married to Anakin Skywalker, but Padme's official name at the time of her death is Her Excellency Senator Padme Amidala Naberrie of Naboo, because no one really knows that she is married, and she's not stupid enough to parade it around.

I hope that answers your question. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Two things...

  • ...Padmé being force-sensitive is not confirmed (although it is a possibility,but it's not confirmed). So don't add her to the Force-sensitives category.
  • ...How was Padmé affilating with the Empire?

--SWME 23:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

    • Oh come on! Why do alot of people ignore my comments and edits ?!--SWME 19:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Can someone please reply to me NOW ?!--SWME 21:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
        • She was technically an Imperial Senator for about the last third of episode III. I've never heard of her being Force-sensitive, though. —Silly Dan (talk) 21:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
          • Neither did I. On the Imperial affilation note, it's been over a year since I watched Revenge of the Sith (wich was also one of the only two Star Wars movies I have seen before, the other being The Phantom Menace) and I also didn't know alot about Star Wars that time, although I was following the events in Episode III.--SWME 22:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • There's a deleted scene in AOTC where yoda mentions that she is Force-sensitive. Jaina Solo(Goddess Stuff) 22:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Which one is that? I've heard talk about how Padmé is supposedly Force-sensitive, but I always dismissed it as fanon.--Lord OblivionComlink30px 23:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
      • WHAT? "The Force is strong in my family"...Padme too? What scene is that? .... 02:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

"The Force is strong in my family," is what Luke said to Leia on Endor in ROTJ, bracing her for the truth about their father. It's open to interpretation whether that includes Padme or not (though it should!)

If she was force-sensitive while pregnant with the twins could (and did) she slip into a force ghost and then visit Leia because she knew Leia's location? Star Wars: Enterprise 23:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

If this conversation goes the way it has been, I won't even get a reply. Star Wars: Enterprise 23:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Imperial Senator

Technically, Padme was a member of the Imperial Senate for a very short time. - Sikon 17:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, not exactly. She was still in the Rupublic Senete when Palpatine announced the formation of the Galatic Empire. The Imperial Senete was formed sometimes later.BobafettH23 00:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

  • This is like my discussion of whether or not Darth Vader was Galactic Emperor for a very short time. .... 00:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Good to know, by the way, he wasen'tBobafettH23 00:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Which Movie?

In Which Movie Does THis Happen? > > " Amidala was briefly seen in a hologram projected by R2-D2 while Luke was fixing him in 35 ABY. R2 showed Anakin telling her about his dream of her dying in childbirth. Until this revelation, Luke and Leia had been unaware of the identity of their mother, though they were aware of a "Senator Amidala" who served in the final days of the Old Republic. However, they had no inkling of their relation to her. "

Um, we actually don't see R2 filming Padme. I haven't read the book, no wait, I did flick through it before I fell asleep (I'm not really that interested in the original trilogy) and there was a part that Han Solo expresses his opinion that no man in his right mind would just film his girlfriend for no reason. Although Han's knowledge on the Skywalker family is disputed, it would be a sign that Anakin filmed Padme during the events in AOTC, but then, that would be unlikely because he spent most of the film fighting, arguing with Obi-Wan, talking to Padme, kissing Padme and being angry, so it seems unlikely that he would use R2 to film Padme at that point of his life. However, according to our sources and my very unreliable knowledge on the matter, I will have to conclude and say that Anakin used R2D2 to film Padme during the events of AOTC, although we do not see it in the movie. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Actually, Han says that he knows loads of men who make holograms of their girlfreinds and it's in the Dark Nest II not III. And I doubt that you actually see artoo filming them, he did, but they might not have even decided that he did untill they started writing the dark nest trilogy, and it was holograms of anakin and padme during the third episode, you can tell bcuase it's just copied, R2 shows luke scenes that you see in the Third episode. - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 13:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Age

Why did Naboo elect a 14 year-old girl to a government office?--Herbsewell 01:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Because Star Wars children tend to be smarter than real-life children. 24.14.120.92 01:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

  • That wasn't the reason, and I asked that months ago.--Herbsewell 01:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    • She was really charismatic and well-liked, and her predecessor was corrupt and unpopular. -LtNOWIS 01:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Naboonians are idiots. Why didn't someone else run?--Herbsewell 01:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
        • Like most monarchies, the Naboo monarch mainly acts as a figurehead and has a council to advise them on various matters. And someone else DID run - Sio Bibble - however, he didn't win. QuentinGeorge 02:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
          • Then someone else should have ran. Doesn't she have access to the treasury?--Herbsewell 02:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
          • And? Naboo is a constitutional money. Just like modern constitutional monarchs (e.g. Westminster ones) cannot spend money without the consent of parliament, neither can Amidala. And as we see throughout her 8 year reign, the country ran quite efficiently, so much so that they continued to elect young women as their figurehead rulers. QuentinGeorge 02:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
            • Well no. The time after that they elected someone who was quite older.--Herbsewell 02:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
              • Jamilla was older than Amidala, but Apailana was only 13. Anyways, real-world voters do weird things to. Like when Marion Barry was re-elected, even though he was caught smoking crack cocaine. -LtNOWIS 02:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
                • Why did they elect Apailana?--Herbsewell 02:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
            • Jamillia was older than Amidala when elected, but still younger than Amidala at the end of the term. As I have stated, Naboo prospered in the eight year reign of Amidala, so from then on they elected young monarchs. Why is this so difficult to accept? QuentinGeorge 02:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
              • Because you don't elect minors to anything.--Herbsewell 02:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm starting to spout out opinions so we better just leave this discussion where it was months ago.
                • Who's "you"? What "you" do is irrelevant, since the Naboo clearly do elect "minors", clearly consider them to rule well, and so continue the practice. QuentinGeorge 02:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
                  • I just said that was my opinion.--Herbsewell 02:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
                  • Kylantha must've been pretty young when she got elected, since the image on her page is after she'd been in office for about 18 years. -LtNOWIS
                    • She could be in her mid thirties.--Herbsewell 03:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Somewhere or another it says that Naboo's youngest elected Queen was 11.--Amthyst fire 07:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Amidala and her world consist of normal humans? The only thing I can figure is they are genetically different from us and reach mental maturity by 12 instead of 21. Or do they have some enhanced learning techniques or cybernetics speeding up the process? Still it seems odd that a much older, wiser more powerful person with heavy duty political contacts wouldn't get elected to hold the senate seat for the entire world. Amidala's storyline pushes credibility so far as to make the episode II movie ludicrous. They really need to better explain how such a young women can secure the seat on a planetary wide elected senior political office.... (don't have an account) 71.86.155.230 22:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Age can't be a measure of ability, besides, how able do you really need to be to rule a planet. However much, Padme definitely exceeded this minimum. She was brilliant, and very mature. Apailana was too, but nowhere near as much as Amidala, but was voted in as more of a copycat of Padme.

I don't know why you guys have such a big problem with Amidala being a minor when she was elected. I can think of plenty of kids that could do a better job than some of the world rulers today.

Mind you, I am Australian, and that is generally how I've been allowed to think. I know some Americans find the idea of being an underage leader a bit weird. I didn't even know what a minor was until I was eight, because we don't use that term in Oz. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I think I have read somewhere that many people on Naboo go into public service until the age of twenty, when they are expected to retire. Padmé didn't, this is why Sola and Jobal tell her to give it up as they do in the AOTC deleted scenes. The Naboo have their reasons for choosing their youngest as their leaders, and perhaps they're right compared to how old some of our leaders are these days and what they do.

FTR, I'm an Aussie to. Katana Geldar 13:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Image

OK, there seems to be some conflict over the main image for this article. So I'll just post the options that have been battled over, and ask for people's opinions on it. File:Padmeamidalagreenhood.jpg|Option 1 File:Padmegreenscrshot.jpg|Option 2
(Actual deleted scene screenshot)

Option 1 (current image)

  1. Fits quote perfectly. Redemption20pxTalk 03:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    Yeah, I think I prefer the current one. -- Ozzel 03:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    Cull Tremayne 03:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    Tinwe 13:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    I need a name (Complain here) 15:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Option 2

  1. See new comments. - JMAS 03:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  2. Cull Tremayne 04:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC) -- Seems to be much higher quality.
  3. Darth Culator (Talk)(Kills) 04:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  4. Vryce 04:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. Natalie Portman. Natalie Portman. Natalie Portman. .... 04:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. This one, hands down. -- Ozzel 06:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. I need a name (Complain here) 18:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. Tinwe 06:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. This one has a background. General Grham 23:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

New Comments

OK, since none of the other images were even close to being liked, why do we need to use a version of the image with a white background that was pieced together from 2 different size/quality images? Why not use the actual screen shot of the deleted scene? The background is in no way distracting. The current image (Option 1) is grainy, and the color of her face is completely uniform, meaning it looks like it was airbrushed on. It looks unnatural. - JMAS 13:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I cannot see any grain on the first image. And the second image is freakin yellow. You call that natural?! I'm not sure what is with this little crusade you've started but it's seriously pissing me off. --Redemption20pxTalk 04:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
    • I hear that Border Collies see a tinge of yellow where there is absolutely none.... .... 04:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Dogs also have a tendency of biting annoying little gargoyles arms off when something pisses them off...--Redemption20pxTalk 04:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Some of them even eat their own shit. *Insert Woody Woodpecker laugh here* .... 04:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
        • I'll tell you then it's better then any of the shit that garbage pit you call a mouth spews out everyday. Figuratively speaking with Internet boundaries of course - though I'm sure that it's true anyway. Such a shame we can't put that to test. --Redemption20pxTalk 04:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Come, come, my child. There's no need to breach Civility, you know. I'm sure, if you put your mind to it, you can communicate just like a person with all the correct appendages still atatched. Who knows...someone might even feel like talking to you one day. .... 04:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
            • Maybe. Such a shame that nobody in the right state of mind would ever have the desire to even acknowledge your existence, boy. Now, run along. You're beginning to bug me. Like a gnat. Like a wee insect that's too stupid to realize it should stop landing on your arm. --Redemption20pxTalk 04:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
                • How kind of you to acknowledge my exsistence then. .... 04:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
                  • Whoever said I was ever in the right state of mind? Though I'm still sane enough to admit it unlike some others. --Redemption20pxTalk 04:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
                    • Ah, yes. Self-depracation. The last resort of all men. And women. .... 05:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
                      • Last resort my ass. You're a punk. Nothing more. An inferior little man who thinks his word is golden and anyone who says or thinks otherwise, you deem to be less than yourself from the day you registered. --Redemption20pxTalk 05:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
                        • Hello Kettle. I'm Pot. You're Black. .... 05:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  • 1)The only crusade I'm on is to make sure the main image for this article is the best quality image possible. And Option 1 just doesn't have it. It is not personal. 2)Sorry, I have no idea what your talking about regarding a yellow tint. 3)Fourdot, while I appreciate that you agree on the quality of Option 2, your insulting comments are not warranted or welcome here. - JMAS 05:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Welcome, warranted or not, I'm posting them. .... 05:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Best quality? Some how I don't find that very convincing considering the trash you tried to put into the infobox before. --Redemption20pxTalk 05:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
    • The quality of the other image options was better than the current image. Sadly, I have no control over the expression that was on Padme's face when the image was taken. - JMAS 05:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
      • The quality or expression was not the problem. It was the crappy lighting the shit for brains photographer had on her with a black background. Not infobox material. --Redemption20pxTalk 05:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, it seems clear which way this is going. I'm gonna go ahead and put the screenshot image into the article. - JMAS 17:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I suggest that we forgo this picture, where IMO Padme looks okay but not as good as she can sometimes look, and put an AOTC pic in. One that she's actually smiling in might be nice. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 11:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Old Comments

IMO, in the current image, it looks chopped off on the right, and she is looking off to the side, not forward. I think Option 3 is the best image choice by bar, followed by Option 2. - JMAS 03:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Are these all we have? She looks quite constipated in two and four, and three doesn't help with the "glare". Although image 1 is chopped off and she's looking the wrong direction, it seems to be the best image by far. Cull Tremayne 03:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Like I said before, number 2 looks like she's constipated. Number 3 has a weird glow and isn't that great of quality (expression - not fitting for someone like Padme). And number 4 has very weird colors. And Cull, if you thought the current one is the best then why did you vote for option 3? --Redemption20pxTalk 03:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    • You know what? I have no idea. I claim brain fart. Cull Tremayne 03:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • New Option 4: Bedtime Padme? No way in hell. --Redemption20pxTalk 04:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Oh puhlease. But anyway, now that Option 1 is no longer chopped off, I do like it better. But not as good an image as Option 3. There is nothing wrong with its lighting, it's merely the lighting choice the photographer chose for that particular shoot. - JMAS 04:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually Ozzel and Oblivion seem to have reverted it - not sure why. Option 3 has awful lighting. It looks weird and like what was said before, she has a weird smirk.--Redemption20pxTalk 04:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
      • While I still like the original version of #1, I could be persuaded to go with #4. So persuade me. :-P -- Ozzel 04:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Padme. In. A. Nightie. ;) - JMAS 17:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Senator

Does anyone have information on how many terms as senator she filled, and if more than one, when her first term ended and when her second began and so on? Thank you. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 00:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

-from research, she only had one term and it was from the years 24 BBY to 19 BBY (the year if her death) §arah

Are You An Angel?

Are you kidding me? LOL Nice joke now, change it back to Padme.--Dylankidwell 15:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Main Quote

"She was… very beautiful. Kind, but… sad."

I was thinking about this main quote from "Return of the Jedi" when I realized that Padme was dead before Leia was old enough to possibly remember her. These memories may be about her adopted mother, Breha Organa, rather than Padme. Then again, I suppose Leia may have seen holograms or videos of Padme. Still, it's a strange selection for the main quote. --DontWakeDaddy 2 April 2006

  • Nah, it's been confirmed that she was thinking of Padmé. StarWars.com says: "The reference is indeed to Padmé, Leia's biological mother. That Leia was adopted was presumably public knowledge in the Star Wars galaxy -- or at least not a secret. Luke knew about it enough to qualify his question with the word "real."" -- Ozzel 06:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks. I just realized this has already been discussed. Oops. --DontWakeDaddy 2 April 2006

She might have also been like a Jedi, seeing the past.

Maybe a quote that Amidala herself actually said would be nice. Like "I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die while you discuss this in a commitee" from TPM or "Wake up Senators, you must wake up!" from a deleted scene in AOTC. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 12:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

What to believe?

From my research on www.Wookieepedia.com and the Star Wars Encyclopedia, I have noticed that Leia and Luke were born in the year 19 BBY or 18 BBY. I want to know the truth to this. If anyone out there know the official year, I would be pleased to know.—Unsigned comment by 70.20.75.192 (talk • contribs)

  • 19 BBY. Any other date is just speculation from before Revenge of the Sith came out. -- Ozzel 01:18, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

How is Padme two people at once???

After Queen Amidala's royal ship got past the blockade, Padme cleaned up R2-D2. And she was a handmaiden. But later in the movie, Padme said she was the queen. How is she two people at once? Can someone explain?--Windu223 20:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Leia and Padme?

I know its canon that Padme is her mother (and I am not saying it isn't) but did anyone else notice this?: 1) Leia was tough, survived a heart break, many battles, etc.

and 2) Padme was kind of a wuss. I mean, she died of a broken heart.

that is just somthing I find strange, not me thinking them being related is non-canon. Sorry about the bad spelling. :|

Okayyyyyy.... 1. Cannon go BOOM. 2. It's canon. COPE. 3. Strictly speaking, Padme died because Vadah Force Choked her. 4. Please sign your comments with 4 tildes, like this : ~~~~ --tzzA 02:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I know its canon. I wrote that I am not saying it wasn't canon so I don't look like an idiot when it comes to starwars. Just something I found strange. Maybe Leia is more like Anakin then Padme....... and didn't it say in RotS that she died of a broken heart? It was something like that. —Unsigned comment by 72.229.195.224 (talk • contribs) 12:09 4/18/07

"It is as though she lost the will to live" - GH-7 medical droid —Unsigned comment by 72.229.195.224 (talk • contribs) 12:23 4/18/07

  • Is April "Ask Ridiculous Questions About Padme" month? CooperTFN 05:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Are you forgetting Ep 1 & 2? Just because she died of a broken heart AND force choke AND cild birth doesn't mean she's a wuss. JediNTT307 02:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

PADME IS NOT A WUSS!!! I mean, I'm like the toughest kid at school and I cried in the toilets because a boy I liked didn't like me. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 12:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Senator quote

The quote in the Senator section is from a deleted scene. Is that canon then? Domlith 10:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, because I think it might be in the novel (I'm not sure about that, because I haven't read it). But yeah, I reckon that the edited movie isn't the only source we should look at. There are probably lots of deleted scenes, so te deleted scenes shown on the DVD should be taken into consideration, because they're the ones that are important. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 12:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Death: Takotsubo cardiomyopathy

  • Takotsubo cardiomyopathy, also known as transient apical ballooning and stress-induced cardiomyopathy, is a type of non-ischemic cardiomyopathy in which there is a sudden temporary weakening of the myocardium (the muscle of the heart). Because this weakening can be triggered by emotional stress, such as the death of a loved one, the condition is also known as broken heart syndrome

-Wiki Entry -GMo >:M:< 03:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I only got the last bit. Takotsobo watsi? Please speak english. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 12:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Natural labor?

  • The medical droid in RotS mentions that they needed to act quickly if they were to save the babies. But I wonder, was Padme actually ready to deliver, after what she'd been through? Maybe we should consider it as another case of Omitted-Technical-Details-of-the-Prequels... Any logical suggestions? Nanook 19:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

In the junior novelization of Revenge of the Sith that I read a few months ago indicates that Padme was "operated on", which may mean that she had a caesarian session. Because that part of her body is covered in the movie, it may be that she had a caesarian session. Officially The Greatest Jedi In the Game 12:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Sanskrit Translation

"Padmé" does not mean Lotus Flower in Sanskrit, rather, it's "Padma." This is really insignificant, I realize, but I just thought it was a good idea to bring it up. Princess LeiaBlackPearl14 20:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Name

Why is Padme almost always called by her last name in this article now? Drewton 02:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Because using the last name makes the article look more professional. AngelQueen 07:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Not almost every time his/her name is said, especially in Anakin's article. Drewton 16:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
      • It's meant to look similar to an academic article. For example, if you're writing an article about a president or some other person, you don't go through the article referring to them by their first name. The use of the last name makes it more formal. AngelQueen 18:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)