Talk: Kendal Ozzel/Legends

Article milestones Date Process Result June 20, 2008 Featured article nomination Success October 19, 2008 Featured article by Grand Moff Tranner January 11, 2015 Featured article review Removed February 15, 2015 Former Featured article
Current status: Former Featured article

First name

Wasn't his first name Crane? Where does Kendal come from?—Unsigned comment by 134.155.8.84 (talk • contribs)

• I don't know what the original source is, but the Databank says Kendal as well. -- Aidje 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I think it may have been the databank that gave him his first name. -- Ozzel 04:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Sheard played a teacher called Mr.Bronson in the long running BBC tv childrens programme called Grange Hill. There was a long running love hate relationship between Bronson and a particular pupil called Danny Kendall. A classic moment would be Bronson shouting "Kendall! down a corridor. I'm sure this has to be where Ozzel's first name comes from.--Blackflash72 22:03, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

• While this certainly seems plausible, it's not something that should be included in the article without some sort of official verification. Otherwise we're just speculating on possibilities. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:33, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you and fair call, Sheard is certainly associated with Bronson above all his other roles, and Danny Kendall was certainly a major foil to Bronson for a number of years, but without definitive proof...--Blackflash72 05:42, January 26, 2012 (UTC) and it would explain the name Kendal being used "with Sheard's blessing"--Blackflash72 19:29, January 26, 2012 (UTC) the reference for which (33) seems currently unavailable--Blackflash72 20:02, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Birthdate

The birthdate makes Ozzel seem a lot younger than he looks. What's the source? QuentinGeorge 23:28, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)

• No clue on the source, but working for Darth Vader can be a stressful endeavor, I imagine. --SparqMan 01:31, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • I thought so to, but his age in the film was actually a yeal olderthan how old the actor that played him was at the time. Note that he also died at the young age of 67. He probably smoked to many cigarettes, thus looked older than he really was. But your right, he looks more than a year older than piett. I'd say he looks near 50. --Darthsith19 02:25, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Continuity problems

Allegiance hasn't exactly added to the existing questions about how to reconcile Scoundrel's Luck and Darth Vader Strikes, and explain the earliest actions of Executor, but it does bring them all into focus. Does anyone know if there's a specific reference saying that Ozzel was the first captain of Executor, or that he was promoted to replace Amise Griff as commander of Death Squadron? --McEwok 23:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• This certainly does sound like the confusion over Executor commander continues. I always thought it was fairly evident that as of ESB, Ozzel was in command of the Death Squadron, while Piett was the Captain of the Executor. It was the Squadron's command ship, so Ozzel was stationed there. I'm not sure if this is LFL's confusion, or just folks here on the 'pedia, though. --JMM 13:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Captain?

I'm fairly certain Ozzel was an admiral when he presided over the hearing that got Han kicked out of the navy, yet in Allegiance he's a captain again. Is this a continuity error? I suppose he could have been demoted at some point, then promoted back to admiral...--DarkJoker 14:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

• I just read The Hutt Gambit and I noticed this too. As there is no current explanation for this, it is clearly a continuity error, which I think deserves a mention in the article, especially because they are now try to get it to FA --Jinzler 21:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Taken care of. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 22:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
• The most recent Clone Wars comic (the conclusion of the Khorm story arc) reveals Ozzel being promoted to the rank of admiral by Palpatine at the conclusion, giving him the credit for the victory. How to rectify this particular error? Lathaniel 05:15, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
  • The guys at Dark Horse told me this issue would be rectified, and now this? Ugh. Guess I'll get to add the handy TCWRetcon template. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 11:06, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
    • Randy Stradley mentions here that the TCW admiral thing is a mistake. -- I need a name (Complain here) 12:38, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
• Well, demotion seems likely for a moron like him. Or it could just be a major typo.

Republic Navy

He really served in the republic navy during the clone wars? —Unsigned comment by 85.176.115.0 (talk • contribs)

according to January update on DHC's Star Wars Zone, Major Kendal Ozzel will appear in The Clone Wars comic issue #7. Jawajames 17:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

• Could you provide a link that takes us directly to this new information? Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 18:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Nevermind; I see it now. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 00:44, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Contradicting radio drama quote

I thought the only parts of the adaptations that were canon were the parts that did NOT contradict with the canon movies or the parts which are not covered in the movies. In the canon movie, we hear exactly how the dialogue between Vader and Ozzel goes, so the original quote therefore contradicted with the established canon and, although I might be wrong, should not be included in the article, instead the actual canon quote should. Hanzo Hasashi 13:47, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

• For whoever wants to know, I started this forum to discuss the issue a while back. Hanzo Hasashi 19:38, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • The move quote and radio drama quote do not contradict each other. Look at it this way. You have two different bridge officers who witnessed the scene discourse between Vader and Ozzel at his death, but one was a little farther away from the other, and distracted by his given duties. That individual might have only heard selected fragments of the conversation and recount the dialogue as it was given in the film, a more abbreviated telling. The other individual who was closer, or less distracted could have heard more of the conversation, and recounts a more detailed version of the discourse. Neither is wrong, or contradictory, just different tellings of the same scene. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 19:46, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
    • That makes absolutely no sense and is patently flawed logic. If quotes contradict each other, just like if any canon information contradicts each other, we go with the "higher authority" source. Hanzo is correct, but this entire discussion is pretty much a moot point anyway. Tranner is sprucing up the article on his own time and will eventually upload a fresh version. I'm satisfied allowing him to choose an acceptable quote for the section. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:50, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Mara Jade's suggestion

The article seems to say that Mara's comment to Vader is what got Ozzel his command. But isn't the point of her quote that Ozzel should be watched because Vader may not be able to trust him? Calling him "disloyal" is not an endorsement. Unless I'm missing something. --JMM (talk) 13:13, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

• I think the article's wording is accurate -- it's riding on the strong implication in Allegiance that as a result of Mara Jade's suggestion Vader promotes him to admiral of his fleet. Where better place to keep an eye on him, after all? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:57, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

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Older brother

The legends version of Ozzel's entry describes him being the second born son, which implies he had an older brother. Is there any more information available about this guy - name, age in relation to Kendal, status etc? SeniramUK 16:50, August 29, 2019 (UTC)

Fleet Admiral

The article claims, that Ozzel was promoted to be a Fleet Admiral and sourced it with Who's Who in the Imperial Military. But as far as I have seen, the word "fleet admiral", is not mentioned in the Insider article. Like at all. It was just said he was promoted from Captain to Admiral after Griff died. Also, none of the other profiles that mention Ozzel, does not mention him beeing a Fleet Admiral. --Modgamers (talk) 08:25, September 13, 2020 (UTC)