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Images

Do we have any images of the ship from Saturday's episode?Darth Ravigious (talk) 07:58, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

  • Hi there, have just uploaded a screenshot of Thrawn's Star Destroyer and the Seventh Fleet above Lothal. Andykatib 08:13, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
    • Ha. Coincidentally, I just uploaded the same picture for the Seventh fleet. Darth Ravigious (talk) 08:16, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

1 or 2

How do we know for sure that it is an Imperial-1 Class Star Destroyer? Darth Ravigious (talk) 21:09, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Well The Imp-II doesn't have that X looking thing on top of the platform in between the two shield generators. Jkirk8907 (talk) 23:37, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

  • Well, it doesn't line up with the Imp-I either. Heck, it's not even the same as the other SDs in the shot.--D9328 (talk) 23:48, November 21, 2016 (UTC)d9328
    • Would you mind pointing out what these differences are, because maybe I'm being blind but I can't see any difference between the three. - Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (Talk) 18:33, November 22, 2016 (UTC)
      • I think we should just call it "Imperial Star Destroyer". The books generally tend to tell us the designation, which is why the classifications are canon again, but it is not explicitly stated what the canon differences are. It's simply an Imperial Star Destroyer. We don't know the designation. I honestly think it is safer to assume it is the Legends Chimaera's exact counterpart... Darth Ravigious (talk) 19:19, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

While the tower seems to be consistent with an Imperial-I the weapons fit is that of an Imperial-II. You can see during the bombardment of Atolon that the Chimaera carries the 8 octuple turrets most associated with the Imperial-II and not the 8 dual turrets of an Imperial-I. The major visual differences between an Imperial-I and Imperial-II are the differences in the main turrets mentioned above, the Imperial-II lacks the quad turbolasers mounted in the smaller of the brim trench notches, the difference in the bridge tower face and the sensor/comm antenna between the 2 globes on top of the bridge tower, and the thrust vectoring system on the main engines with the Imperial-I having three flaps mounted 120 degrees from each other and the Imperial-II having a contiguous ring. It could be that the Chimaera was built as an Imperial-I, but refitted with the weapons of an Imperial-II. Or it could be that the Chimaera is supposed to be an Imperial-II. - Guardian112 (talk) 16:12, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

          • If you look at Rebels, you see that the ISD model has these octuple turrets since the beginning. There is nothing special about the Chimaera or the Seventh Fleet in this context, it's just the (wrong) Rebels model that is in use since the Lawbringer. Onicle (talk) 20:20, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

Chimarea?

According to this it was called the Chimarea in the scripts so should it be renamed? --Lewisr (talk) 23:50, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

  • Good catch. While at first I wasn't sure if we should move it, I think a move may be in order. Melching basically flat out says it's the Chimaera after the other user says the ship's name is not yet known. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:55, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
    • Agreed, it's very clear from his tweet that they intend for it to be named Chimarea --Lewisr (talk) 23:58, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
    • So What's the verdict then? yay or nay?Jkirk8907 (talk)
      • Seems like enough evidence to me. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:10, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Step Into the Shadows

Was this the Star Destroyer that appeared in the season premier? It seems ambiguous whether or not Tarkin was visiting Thrawn, or if Thrawn was visiting Tarkin on his. Darth Ravigious (talk) 19:22, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

  • I doubt it, seens as at the end of the episode Thrawn isn't on the ship and they contact bring him up via hologram --Lewisr (talk) 19:27, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Thrawn image near the bottom of the page

Even though it comes from a canon source, the image looks nothing like canon Thrawn. They made a point redesigning him for Rebels to make him more alien by adding the buldges above his eyes. Also, the pupils, too synonymous with the canon version of him, are missing from the picture. It shouldn't be used on a canon page.--ZapikCZ (talk) 13:33, October 2, 2017 (UTC)

Didn't Thrawn own this?

Instead of putting him as a commanding officer, could we put him as a owner? Because he kinda was given this Imperial Star Destroyer. Supreme Commander Raxus (talk) 19:50, June 4, 2019 (UTC)

  • I'm not familiar with Canon, but typically a commanding officer doesn't "own" a piece of military equipment assigned to him, such as a starship. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:55, June 4, 2019 (UTC)

Where the crash Chimaera in Unknown Regions

Where the crash Chimaera in Unknown Regions?Miłosz Pikos (talk) 12:51, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

  • We currently don't know, but hopefully one day we will find out! Lewisr (talk) 14:29, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Communications tower in Ahsoka?

The Chimaera is an Imperial-I star destroyer which means it has a tractor beam targeting array but in Ahsoka it is replaced with a communications tower which is found on Imperial-II class star destroyer. Could it be possible that it was upgraded from a tractor beam targeting array to a communications tower between Rebels and Ahsoka. —Unsigned comment by DevonHeaven (talk • contribs)

  • It's likely just a result of them having to repair the ship after the purril incident Lewisr (talk) 15:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
    • In the Lothal attack episode, Hera also shoots the tower and it explodes. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 16:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
      • Right before the Chimaera jumps with the Purrgils, she still has the tractor beam tower of the Imperial-I TribuneCoruscant (talk) 08:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Should I add the communications tower into it's infobox just to be sure? DevonHeaven (talk) 17:05, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The new Thrawn Alliances comic issue depicts the Chimaera with a communications tower. And this is set before the events of Ahsoka. Despite Rebels Season 4 depicting the ship with a tractor beam targeting array, Lucasfilm many have contradicted that and depicted it with a comms tower. Is this debate still ambiguous or do we put the comms tower in a reference it to the new comic. Hotdog Base (talk) 17:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Outdated infobox.

I'm confused to why the wookieepedia admins want to keep the infobox on the Chimaera out of date. Key information like the Chimaera's bridge officer corps, additional passengers, TIE squadrons and arnaments are missing yet we seem to be fine with that. - 19:27, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Infobox outdated?

The Chimaera's infobox is severely outdated. Wookieepedia seems to remove any changes or updates made to improve the quality of the infobox. This includes information like certain armaments, starfighter squadrons and missing crewmembers. Could someone clarify on this problem and why this is? AEGISServer007 (talk) 21:12, December 7, 2024 (UTC)

  • In some cases what's being added doesn't follow the guideline included here Template:Individual_ship for example. But the infobox could really use a real go over yes Lewisr (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
  • How can we give the infobox a real go over without breaking the guidelines and bringing it to a higher quality standard then? AEGISServer007 (talk) 22:17 (UTC)
    • There's some example that can be found here, but also simply just using the template I listed above Lewisr (talk) 23:42, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Alright I've had a go over at the infobox using the template to help. If there is anything you are not satisfied feel free to remove it or fix it. But I would not recommend reverting the infobox back to it's lower outdated quality AEGISServer007 (talk) 17:08 (UTC)
    • In the future it would be advisable to your edits for reference errors before publishing, as if the reference fully errors like it did with this revision, it doesn't display any of the note's information and instead just a large, bolded red text saying that it's broken under "Notes and references". Which, is essentially uncited at that point since it displays no sourcing information, particularly since the reference book being pointed to was also a redlink due to misname, and the episode purportedly being used was linking to a redirect for a character, not an episode of a show. Whether any of the other usages of the "Weapons" ref-name also need to be switched to "Weapons2" is up to you; but the same name cannot be used twice without generating an error.—spookywillowwtalk 17:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
    • As I pointed out about using the template instructions, the complement field is for 'Number and type of support craft carried aboard.' Lewisr (talk) 17:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Modified ship and hyperspace transport ring

The Chimaera is listed as a modified star destroyer but the infobox does not include this. Additionally could the Eye of Sion be added under the hyperdrive system as it served as the ship's hyperspace transport ring for a time. AEGISServer007 (talk) 18:06 (UTC)

  • While it served a similar function, the Eye of Sion is ultimately its own ship rather than just a hyperdrive component. So it is worth covering in the article body, but not for the infobox. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 10:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)