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Can't we find a better quote? CooperTFN 00:44, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Jedi Advisor

"Later, Bib Fortuna apparently reformed and became an advisor to the Jedi Council, although he lost this position under vague circumstances."

OK, I'm going to assume this is related to that dumb crap from a while ago. Someone show me this isn't fanon or this gets erased. --Thanos6 16:16, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • What dumb crap are you referring to? --Master Starkeiller 16:17, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    • Some anon posted "Bib Fortuna reported to the Jedi Council, but after his latest report contained over 300,000 pieces of vague information he was fired" or something like that. --Thanos6 16:18, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
      • Okay, I removed it. It couldn't have been anything else but stupid fanon. --Master Starkeiller 16:21, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
        • I don't see why people keep assuming it couldn't be canon just because a troll posted it, and did so in a way that made the information sound ridiculous.
        • Here's an example: Imagine that the Palpatine article didn't have any information on the events of the Star Wars: Dark Empire series, and simply ended with Palpatine's first death at Endor. Then, by some unlucky circumstance, the first person who submits any information about Palpatine being revived is a troll who posts a paragraph along the lines of "palpatine's remains were blown 2 the planet abyss where they came back together. palpatine remade the empire from scratch and luke decided to become evil and join him to become the new darth vader. luckily then han solo shot palpatine to death with his mad shotting skillz which was so powerful palpatine died 4 good".
            • Dude that is awesome , I think we should use it !Lol
        • Obviously, something like that would be removed quickly. But wouldn't it be silly if, from that point on, *any* information posted about Palpatine being reborn was immediately dismissed as trolling or false information, no matter how valid it truly was? It seems to me that's what you're doing here. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure I'm right (I've never read anything first-hand regarding Bib Fortuna becoming an advisor to the Jedi Council) but I've heard it from enough people and sources that it seems likely to be true, and you seem to just be dismissing it simply because of a troll who deliberately posted a falseified version of that information.199.79.168.160 20:38, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
          • What we would do about Star Wars: Dark Empire is the same thing we'd do here - if we have reason to doubt something, we ask for a verifiable source. If that troll said "it's true i read it all in dark empppirre yo," someone could pull out Dark Empire or read a few independent summaries of that comic, and determine that the overall story alluded to by the troll was true. So far, this Bib Fortuna information is unverifiable - no source has been offered with regard to this information. jSarek 23:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
            • And if it is in one of the sources already listed, someone please let us know...— Silly Dan 23:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Further, if we have previously confirmed a piece of fanon, then something obviously related can be linked back. --SparqMan 00:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I just searched my e-text collection. Out of 236 books, stories, and magazine articles in my collection, 17 books contained both case-sensitive strings "Bib" and "Fortuna". 8 of those contained both the case-sensitive string "Jedi" and some variation of the word "council." At least one of those was a false positive. None of those books contained a reference to Bib Fortuna having any contact with the Jedi Council. —Darth Culator (talk) 00:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Fair enough. Still, I'm certain I've heard the tidbit about Bib Fortuna becoming an advisor to the Jedi several times before it was posted by the troll in this article, and I'll try to do a bit more research on the subject.

Affiliation

Why is his affiliation 'loyal to jabba', i mean the guy wanted to kill jabba.... --Standupngetcrunk 22:02, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

He still worked for him- most of the people who worked for Jabba planned to kill him or were allied with those who planned to kill him; Ephant Mon excepted of course. --Maru (talk) Contribs 21:15, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
  • And Salacious Crumb, but I think that was because he was too stupid to think of a way. Also, wouldn't his loyalty have been to the Desilijic kajidic? -- SFH 21:19, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Name change

I've noticed that some Twi'leks are having their names changed to the their Ryl pronunciation. Here, I would oppose that. As stated X-Wing: The Krytos Trap, the Twe'lek's have formally broken Bib Fortuna's name apart, to signify a formal ostricization from the Twi'lek people. Thus it would be ofensive to the Twi'leks to hear his name put together. Granted, I realize that a non-existant species cannot be offend by us, but I thought I should make that point. -- SFH 19:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah. I've read somwhere that his Clan name was "Bibfort'una" (Thus Bibfort of clan Una). And When he was cast out they changed his name to Bib Fortuna to dishonor him or something. But I don't remember where I saw it, so it might just be fanon. --Draii 00:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
    • It'd probably be more like "Bib of the clan Fortuna", but as they did with Wedge Antilles name in X-Wing: The Krytos Trap (they changed it to Wedgean'tilles, if I remember correctly), they would have changed it to "Bibfort'una" to make it sound more poetic.--Uncanny474 00:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

no you are correct i have also read that somewhere but i also do forget, but it isnt fanon

Minions, not prisoners

Betrayal is one of my favorite Jabba the Hutt stories, and I just wanted to clarify that Nivek and the other guys recruited by Bib to assist him in assassinating Jabba were not prisoners. They were Jabba's minions just as much as Bib was. They simply met down in the dungeon to avoid being overheard. Unless anyone objects, I've gone and changed all mention of "prisoners" to "minions" in articles relating to Betrayal. - Kooshmeister

Looks albino to me.

This guy looks albino. His skin is pure white and he has red eyes--Dumac 21:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

He probably is. But we need a source to prove it. Red Head Rider 18:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I think that Star Wars Galaxies says that he's an albino, but I'm not entirely positive.--Thoggnee 03:45, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Apperance in Episode I

Where does he appear in the episode one? Lord Titze the Dark Wanderer 00:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)Predated

Thanks Lord Oblivion Lord Titze the Dark Wanderer 01:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)Predated

B'omarr Monks...

Did Fortuna willingly submit to the monks? Unit 8311 16:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Why the pic?

Who chose the pic at the top of the page and why? The pic on regular wiki is much better. 66.167.145.218 08:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

  • No, the one on Wikipedia is blurry and low-res. This is a decent full-body shot - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 08:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. Fortuna doesn't have anything out of the ordinary as far as appearance below the waist so a full body shot is unnecessary. Fortuna's face is well-known from RotJ and the wiki pic is more recognizable. 66.167.145.218 16:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

TPM actor

According to the episode I article, an uncredited Alan Ruscoe plays Bib Fortuna, and Matthew Wood dubbs his voice. But both articles say they played Bib Fortuna, and not his voice. And Bib Fortuna only was in one or two scenes (it can't be like Boba Fett, who was played by Mark Austin, Jeremy Bulloch, John Morton and Don Bies). Darth Echuta 21:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

the clone wars?

if we know that he is working for jabba in this timeframe, why isnt he in the clone wars? JediBob 21:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

  • He was working for Jabba in the timeframe, though not necessarily as majordomo. It actually fits better if he isn't in The Clone Wars. Though he could still be in the film. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
    • He is indeed in the Clone Wars. Take a look at his entry in the Databank. Same thing happens with Jocasta Nu, you don't see them, but they are casted, probably for the next seasons. --87.222.147.199 10:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Date of death and place

I think we need the date of death and place if that is there. Does someone know that?--Station7 22:48, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

  • It isn't known if/when he died, so stating that in the article is fanon. CC7567 (talk) 22:50, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Die Wanna Wanga

Bib Fortuna's first in ROTJ are "Die Wanna Wanga" I assume it roughly translates to "Do you wanna die?" However, is there an actual translationTaliesin2 05:46, April 22, 2010 (UTC)?

  • There is. But please post random questions like this at Forum:Knowledge Bank. Talk pages are only for discussing the article in question and how to make it better. Good luck! ~ SavageBob 05:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Time as a brain

I just noticed something. In the paragraph in which his brain was removed, it said he languished for years (with no reference). A following paragraph says six months later he took over Firith's body. This is obviously improper chronology, and so I ask, is there a source (perhaps his TFJP entry) that says he was disembodied for years, or was this just an error? Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 21:06, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

The Valsedian operation

This section needs a re-write. It makes it sound like Bib isn't working for Jabba but his cousin, and the timeframe seems off (Bib should be working for Jabba at this point). Thanos6 02:25, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Appearance at Coruscant

The article makes no mention of his deleted scene during the senate; seen as one of Orn Free Taa's aides, responding to the vote of no confidence. He was played by Alan Ruscoe in this part, and in all of his interviews, he was positively identified as Bib Fortuna himself (For instance: http://www.starwarsaficionado.com/alan_ruscoe_interview.html). This appearance was probably deemed unneeded, since he suggests that it was put in BEFORE Matthew Wood's portrayal of the character during the Boonta Eve Podrace scene. Also, this association may also explain Orn Free Taa's seemingly random appearance in Jabba's box in the Phantom Menace video game.-SlashMan 22:14, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Kuat?

Dear author, what's your source for Fortuna's try to join Kuat Drive Yards? 80.239.243.94 18:35, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Bib Fortuna in the Mandalorian season 2 final episode afterward.

This article is out of date. From the short clip at the end of the season 2 final episode of the Mandalorian it was shown that Bib Fortuna was killed by Fennec Shand and removed from his throne by Boba Fett. —Unsigned comment by 71.199.52.167 (talk • contribs)