Forum:TC:Wampa cave

This page is an archive of the Trash compactor discussion about the future of Wookieepedia's coverage of the topic(s) listed below, including whether or not to delete or redirect the relevant page(s). This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the relevant talk pages or in the Senate Hall forum rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 19:50, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Wampa cave (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This is the wampa cave from The Empire Strikes Back, but there is nothing inherently notable or significant about it other than its out-of-universe recognition. As the author of the wampa article, I can say with authority that wampa caves are typically temporary domiciles that are regularly abandoned as wampas move on to more fertile hunting grounds, and this article subject gives no indication that it's any different. This cave is specifically different from things like the Ice Claw Wampa Den, the Ice Behemoth Cave, and Wampa Valley, which are significant examples of permanent, named caves and/or wampa dens that housed multiple wampas. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:41, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Delete

1. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:41, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
2. Cade Calrayn 19:43, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
3. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 19:44, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
4. 501st dogma^(talk) 20:03, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
5. —MJ— _Comlink 20:28, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
6. Good explanation, Tope. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 21:56, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
7. Supreme Emperor (talk) 23:53, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
8. I defer to the resident expert on wampas. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 01:54, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
9. IFYLOFD ^(💩) 02:20, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
10. —Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 02:24, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
11. —Tommy 9281 Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 02:36 UTC
12. Convinced Manoof (talk) 02:45, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
13. --Emperor Jarjarkine Senate Hall 02:58, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
14. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:39, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
15. Trip391 (talk) 04:11, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
16. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:24, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Keep

1. Seem pretty significant to me. <-Omicron^{(Leave a message at the BEEP!)} 20:06, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
   • Just because it appears in a film and Luke Skywalker hung out in it for a little while doesn't mean it needs to have an article. It's a cave. That's it. I've demonstrated examples of caves and wampa dens that are deserving of articles for specific reasons: They have in-universe names and were demonstrably permanent structures. This cave meets neither criteria. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:19, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
   • #I'm hesitant to vote delete just because of the possibility someone looks it up, BECAUSE of its OOU notability. Perhaps adding information here about wampa caves in general, as well as this cave specifically? Manoof (talk) 01:36, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
     • That makes absolutely no sense. We've never maintained an in-universe article because it has out-of-universe notability, and even if such a concept existed, it certainly wouldn't need to apply to something as trivial as this. And we don't need an article on wampa caves. This information is already covered in the Wampa article. Do we also need an article on tree forts for the same reason because Ewoks lived in them and fans are familiar with the concept? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:53, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
       • Unidentified head-bumping stormtrooper - kept because it's 'notability' was it bumped it's head, and fans recognise it. Manoof (talk) 02:05, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
         • That subject was never "kept." It was never nominated for deletion in the first place, and its existence is questionable at best. An anon even questioned why it's an article on its talk page. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:16, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
2. - AV-6R7^{User talk:AV-6R7} 01:56, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
3. Brandon Rhea^(talk) 02:45, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

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