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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete Unidentified BX-series droid commando 2 (Sundari) and Unidentified BX-series droid commando 2 (Onderon); no consensus for the rest. Imperators II(Talk) 07:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Unidentified BX-series droid commando 2 (Cad Bane) (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This commando droid is one of two who is part of Cad Bane's group. While the first one impersonates a Senate Commando with his voice modulation, this one has no lines and does not notably contribute to the plot. It is one of several guys to fight the Senate Commandos but does not do anything unique or notable. It is also seen with the group flying away in the speeders but the droid is just sitting there so nothing to note. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

#Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

  1. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Its involvement in the Senate hostage crisis makes it notable, not to mention the fact that it was one of the two commando droids in the event. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Absolutely. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Ah, this droid actually does have another source. He and his partner get mentioned issue 69 of build your own R2, with one line even saying "it was never discovered whether the droids were gifts Bane had received or units he had captured and reprogramed". As such, I will argue this page is notable; he appears in another source and has this lore. Editoronthewiki (talk) 12:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Per SorcererSupreme 21 and Editoronthewiki.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 13:13, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. Changing vote after Editor revealed the extra lore from Build Your Own R2. Wok142 (talk) 05:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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Unidentified BX-series droid commando (The Citadel) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This commando droid is with a group led by Osi Sobeck that goes to make sure Even Piell did not get broken out of prison. When they get there, the droid runs into the cell, empty since Piell did escape, and turns around saying "They escaped, sir" to Sobeck. Sobeck then tells another droid to shoot this droid, and this droid gets destroyed. One throwaway line that I don't believe to be significant in any way since it's just a Captain Obvious statement and gives this droid no individuality that would warrant an article detailing this individual droid's life. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Disagree with its line being insignificant, and the rest of its role in the episode is notable: being stationed on the Citadel, checking on Tarkin's cell and reporting his absence, as well as being executed by another commando droid on a cranky Sobeck's orders for doing its job. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. ^Yes. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Neither an exclamation nor an affirmation VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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Unidentified BX-series droid commando (Carlac) (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This droid was one of the many droids that Death Watch abused for target practice. In the scene were R2 has to repair them, pretty much all the droids are clamoring and saying the line "please reassemble us." I am honestly not sure if this droid was speaking or not but to me, it is inconsequential given how unimportant the line is, especially since all of the droids are basically chanting it. Later, this guy gets a weapon and tries to put up a fight against Death Watch and is gunned down pretty quickly. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Disagree with its role being insignificant. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Neither exclamation nor affirmation VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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Unidentified BX-series droid commando 2 (Onderon) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This droid gets dropped off by an HMP gunship and watches his buddy shoot a rebel. Then, both droids run after King Dendup and his two guards. This droid charges the last guard and they both blast each other. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  10. VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  11. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Disagree with its role being insignificant. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified BX-series droid commando 3 (Onderon) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This is the companion of the last guy. However, this guy has a line. When they first get deployed, this droid fires a nonlethal shot at a rebel and asks "where is the false king?" He later executes the rebel and chases after Dendup, where he is destroyed. This line is pretty borderline to me as far as significance. I'm putting it up for deletion but could be swayed frankly, would like to see some discussion around lines like this and how significant the community thinks they are. There are a pretty big amount of Clone Wars characters that got pages for lines like this so I'm interested in hearing the arguments on it and using a vote like this as precedent to either save or axe many other articles. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. You hit the nail on the head in pointing out there are hundreds of these articles about insignificant characters that squeak by on technicalities of the Notability policy. This is ultimately a flaw in that policy, but the key question is: what best serves readers? And I don't see how readers are served by a plethora of rinkydink "Unidentified" articles each containing little useful content. Ax as many as possible. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Line gives notalibity. VergenceScatter (talk) 21:42, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Notable line and significant enough role in the plot. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified BX-series droid commando (Onderon) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This is another interesting case where the character has a decently long line, but to me, while the dialogue might be significant, this individual character still has no notability. The line is delivered as the droid walks into Kalani's shot: "General, our scouts have located the main rebel forces in the mountains to the east."

This character's only unique or specifically individual trait is saying this line. It is definitely plot relevant, but it also just serves as an expository statement that anyone could have said. In the end, this article's only actual substance is to document that this line is said, which to me is not a worthwhile endeavor.

Again, it's pretty borderline, and while I'm voting delete for now, I'm open to other opinions and primarily, I'm interested in hearing the arguments on it and using a vote like this as precedent to either save or axe many other future articles. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. The article text really contorts itself to have something to say about this droid: "this droid saw as King Rash demanded..." Witnessing someone else doing something notable is not notable. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Yeah, I think that's enough dialogue to keep. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Notable dialogue. Its line being an expository statement and something "anyone could have said" is irrelevant. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. Per SorcererSupreme, the fact that anyone could have said it doesn't matter VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified BX-series droid commando (Sundari) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This guy is one of two droids to drag Lux out of the Sundari palace and back to the Separatist landing craft. There, Dooku tells the two droids to kill Lux via hologram. These guys get into fighting poses but then get surprise attacked by Ahsoka and are destroyed. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Personally on the fence about these two, but I'd say it plays a significant enough plot role; being stationed in Sundari, being ordered by Dooku to drag Bonteri to the ship and execute him, and being destroyed by Ahsoka. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. ^Exactly. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified BX-series droid commando 2 (Sundari) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This is the second droid. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 20:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Maybe. Corellian PremierRogue SquadronMTFBWY 02:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. NanoLuukeCloning facility 11:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
  10. Asithol (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per above. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. VergenceScatter (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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