Forum:TC:Unidentified Ugnaught (Trueping's)

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus. —MJ— Holocomm 02:09, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Unidentified Ugnaught (Trueping's) (talk - history - links - logs)

So, this pig walks into a bar...

This is a pig in a cantina people. The entirety of his active appearance is him taking a single shot of some beverage. No lines, completely non-notable and not worth an article unless we're going to make a one line article for each patron seen walking or dancing in the background of this scene. I usually lean on the side of inclusionism if the individual has even a single word of dialogue or does even a minor noteworthy action. This guy does neither. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 00:55, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Delete

  1. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 00:55, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Yes please. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 01:04, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Eh. 1358 (Talk) 14:03, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
  4. KILL IT. 501st dogma(talk) 21:34, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
    Did nothing notable, had no lines or interaction with notable characters. Supreme Emperor (talk) 21:36, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This guy is pretty unnotable. JangFett (Talk) 00:06, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
  6. —MJ— War Room 01:14, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
  7. There are too many TCW articles like this. We should really clear them out. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 08:14, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
  8. This is the first of many that should be deleted. Stake black msg 02:04, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. We need more Ugnaught articles. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:15, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:49, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
  3. I'll be completely honest here: We don't need this article. No one is going to search for this Ugnaught. Its existence contributes nothing to the site. That being said, however, we need to establish some sort of notability policy, and until then we're going to have to put up with articles like this. (As a deletionist, this makes me cringe.) We can't keep being picky. Corellian Premier brings up an excellent point regarding Unidentified balding Human (Chalmun's Spaceport Cantina). Silly Dan is correct in saying that this article would be more likely to pass notability requirements than the Ugnaught, but the point remains: If that article continues to exist (as a Comprehensive Article, might I add), then this article about some random Ugnaught seen fleetingly in a single episode of The Clone Wars should stay as well. (On a side note, I would argue that the Ugnaught gets more screen time than the balding man, so perhaps the question of which character is more notable is not so clear.) Now, this does not mean we should open the floodgates and allow for articles like "Unidentified clone trooper 476 (Geonosis)" to be created; should that happen, I'll delete them without hesitation. However, I see no reason why this article should be deleted when similar articles continue to exist in the absence of notability guidelines. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 18:50, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
  4. I have to agree with Tranner here. As I'm sure most already know, I thrive on the little, insignificant articles, and thus, material in Star Wars. The majority of my status articles are or are based on small, seemingly insignificant items that can only be found once in all of Star Wars. I've always believed that as a comprehensive wiki, it was our duty to record everything relevant about Star Wars, no matter how small. As Tranner said, I definitely do not think there should be an article for every stormtrooper ever shot at in a Battlefront game. However, there is a significant difference between a no-face, no-name stormtrooper and a character like that bald guy. I'm not entirely convinced that this article should be kept. However, consider this vote to be a statement vote for the discussion of notability. At the very least, this article should be kept until we can actually figure something out for notability guidelines. Otherwise, we're going to have a million of these types of TCs with a million different outcomes, since it will be left to the current and changing discretion of the voter.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 13:47, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 15:44, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Have to change to keep per above arguments. Supreme Emperor (talk) 21:49, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

There really isn't any possibility of a 3rd option here, so don't create one please. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 00:55, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

What's the difference between this guy and this guy: Unidentified balding Human (Chalmun's Spaceport Cantina)? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 20:50, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Baldy there is in the movies, and has a slightly less slim chance of getting a name someday (or getting his BTS section filled out if anyone identifies the extra playing him.) If Wookieepedia had a notability policy for in-universe articles (which it doesn't), he'd thus be more likely to pass it. —Silly Dan (talk) 22:36, June 4, 2013 (UTC)