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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was No consensus: Death Watch soldier 2 and 3; Delete: Death Watch Mandalorian 3. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Unidentified Death Watch soldier 2 (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

At the Carlac camp, this Mandalorian and the next one are harassing their target practice droids. This guy says "dance, droids!" while shooting near their legs. I think that Death Watch members abusing droids is certainly notable information, but it can just be noted on the Death Watch page. I don't think this information, which is not specific to this individual, combined with a two-word sentence makes this individual warrant their own article. Wok142 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Lewisr (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning facility 18:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 21:25, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. KingWookiee (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. Rsand 30 (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  10. SilverSunbird (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Not really a simple exclamation imo VergenceScatter (talk) 18:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  2. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 23:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Even though it's a single line, the line itself conveys some personality about the individual. We've kept similar articles like this before. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
  4. It's not clear that ALL death watch members "abuse droids", and speaks more to their personality as Shay mentioned Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 13:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
  5. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  6. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 20:11, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

  • Would simply adding a sentence such as "members of Death Watch were unruly, with members beating prisoners and some even abusing droids and using them for target practice" to the Death Watch page suffice? I feel like this information can still be properly documented without the need for two pages of "guy who said 'dance' shot at a droid once." Wok142 (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Good point. People—particularly a group of people—shouting "dance!" doesn't express any significant unique personality/individuality for the characters to warrant individual articles. OOM 224 18:06, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Unidentified Death Watch soldier 3 (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Same as above but this man's line is simply "dance!" Wok142 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  2. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Lewisr (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. OOM 224 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning facility 18:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 21:25, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. KingWookiee (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. Rsand 30 (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  10. SilverSunbird (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Same as above VergenceScatter (talk) 18:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  2. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 23:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. Per above. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
  4. It's not clear that ALL death watch members "abuse droids", and speaks more to their personality as Shay mentioned Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 13:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
  5. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  6. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 20:11, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified Death Watch Mandalorian 3 (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This is the "failure" guy. He attacks Obi-Wan. He gets knocked down. He gets shot by Pre Vizsla and dies. No lines and not really any notable actions. Information about Pre Vizsla being ruthless enough to kill his own men can be noted on his page—this guy doesn't become notable because he happens to be the one who got shot. Wok142 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Wok142 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  3. OOM 224 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  4. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  5. NanoLuukeCloning facility 18:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Failure VergenceScatter (talk) 18:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  7. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  8. Imperators II(Talk) 21:25, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  9. KingWookiee (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
  10. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
  11. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  12. Rsand 30 (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  13. SilverSunbird (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Disagree with notability. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 23:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
  2. He puts up a great fight and disarmed Kenobi, Satine's distraction allows Kenobi to gain the upper hand. Plot significance makes him notable Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 13:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    JM1998 (talk) 22:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: Additional provisions, item 1 -- OOM 224 19:26, 6 June 2022 (UTC))
  3. I'd argue that while relatively small, this one did have plot notability, plus the directly being referenced by a main character. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 20:11, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

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