Forum:TC:Socialism

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:06, July 22, 2019 (UTC)

Socialism (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Created by speculation, there's no canon source that mentions by name socialism.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 07:32, July 17, 2019 (UTC)

Delete

1. --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 07:12, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
2. Brules Talk 07:17, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
3. 01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 07:41, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
4. As Hayek once said, "Socialism constitutes a threat to the present and future welfare of the human race, in the sense that neither socialism nor any other known substitute for the market order could sustain the current population of the world." I say that we wipe this pathetic ideology from the face of the galaxy! Darth Ravigious 08:24, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
5. JRT2010 (talk) 08:59, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
6. Much as I am a historian and social scientist, the book Battlefront: Twilight Company doesn't explicitly mention socialism. Unless another Canon source appears explicitly mentioning socialism, I'll have to vote for delete. Andykatib 09:22, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
7. Zed42 (talk) 10:00, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
8. 1358 ^(Talk) 10:01, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
9. I will gladly delete socialism anyday. :P MasterFred^(Whatever) 11:41, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
10. We did it boys. Socialism is no more. Tommy Macaroni 11:44, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
11. Damned socialists. Fan26 (Talk) 12:01, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
12. Peak socialism intensifies... Tomotron (talk) 12:13, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
13. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 12:32, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
14. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 13:03, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
15. JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 13:18, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
16. It doesn't even matter whether or not a canon source explicitly names socialism. Wookieepedia is not a dictionary. Asithol (talk) 23:24, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
17. IFYLOFD ^(Talk) 23:26, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
18. lolz. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:51, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
19. Best if we remove it, since there's no real reference to socialism even in Twilight Company from what I heard, certainly not an explicit mention, and we really should only create a Canon article if there's an explicit reference from at least two different sources. That said, I'm not sure we should delete it outright, more move it back to Socialism and delete Socialism/Legends due to that "/Legends" extension not being needed due to there not being a Canon counterpart. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:22, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
20. Exiled Jedi (talk) 00:43, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
21. I'm all for a well-researched scholarly article...but this is not it. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 02:44, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
22. This greatly entertains me. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:12, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
23. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:27, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
24. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 17:34, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
25. I actually wasn't going to bother voting on this until the whining started. But since socialism has killed millions of people, it does feel kinda good to kill it here. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 21:12, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • I assume "the whining" is my comment below? :) --Lelal Mekha ^{(Audience Room)} 22:01, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
26. Imperators II^(Talk) 21:25, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
27. Regardless of my RL opinions (since it's apparently fashionable to express one's Red Scare like a good Eagleland stereotype), this article should be deleted since the name isn't referenced anywhere in canon. --Lelal Mekha ^{(Audience Room)} 22:36, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
28. —spookywilloww^talk 17:37, July 22, 2019 (UTC)

Keep

Comments

• Guys, maybe what I'm about to say is stupid, but... how about refraining from expressing political opinions while voting? --Lelal Mekha ^{(Audience Room)} 06:58, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
  • If we're concerned about dangerous ideologies on Wookieepedia, wait until everybody hears about the Empire. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 22:16, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
    • Not to mention that we don't want to open that particular Pandora box of how the "good guys" are killing lots of people too. (Usually not their people, so I guess it doesn't count.) The article should definitely be deleted because the name isn't used anywhere in a canon source, but I don't see what Culator's or anyone else's real-life opinions have to do with the issue at hand. --Lelal Mekha ^{(Audience Room)} 22:22, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
      • Absolutely nothing, but that's not a problem. Comments in TC votes are perfectly acceptable and not against the rules. Everyone here is voting based on the fact that the article should not exist based on WP:NAD and the fact that the term was never used. We're all just throwing in our opinions on socialism when we vote. Fan26 (Talk) 22:26, July 18, 2019 (UTC)
• Enough. Some people just don't know when to draw the line, so allow me to do it for you. I've reverted this incredibly off-topic post, and any other comments not expressly directed toward the fate of this article will similarly be removed and treated as disruption, with potential sanctions to follow. Don't push it. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:26, July 19, 2019 (UTC)