Forum:TC:Santa Claus

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The result of the debate was keep in some form, per clear majority of votes. —Silly Dan _(talk) 21:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Santa Claus (talk - history - links - logs)

*cough* - Sikon 16:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep

Keep it! Who doesn't like Yoda in a Santa Suit?! 17:21, 23 December 2006 (unsigned, not counted)

1. I need a name (Complain here) 16:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
2. Meh, just call it a conjectural name. Bit of festive fun! - \\Captain Kwenn// ^{— Ahoy!} 16:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Oh, come on! -- Darth Culator ^{(Talk)(Kills)} 16:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
4. Kuralyov 16:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
5. Can't bring myself to vote for deleting Santa. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 16:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
6. It's canon whether you like it or not. --Redemption^Talk 16:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
7. Oh, for crying out loud, you scrooges! Keep it. It's not like it's gonna be actively edited and viewed throughout the year. - JMAS 16:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
8. Have fun with your coal. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:07, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
9. ;) G.He_(Talk!) 17:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
10. The Broox 17:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
11. Don't delete Santa. He's got special powers. -- SFH 18:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

    Hey, he's in X-Wing, therefore he's canon. Canonicity does not discriminate based on when the game is played. --64.142.89.80 20:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC) (IP vote, not counted)

12. Humbug?! May Sikon be visited by the Ghosts of Christmas Past, Present and Future. QuentinGeorge 20:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
13. Yoshi626 20:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
14. Why cant people accept that this is a legitimate article? HappyTimeHarry 20:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
15. It's more valid than articles like THX1138 and that. -NighthawkLeader 23:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
16. Keep it! There's nothing that bad about it 2:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)-User:Chemical art
17. Heck, we should make it 'Featured article' (for the day, at least) :D Tocneppil 02:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
18. Keep, as it's a character that appear in an official source. VT-16 12:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
19. If it is backed by actual canon, the only consideration should be what to rename it, as I doubt Santa Claus is accurate. --ChrisK 12:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
20. Ditto everyone else. -- Cato Neimoidia 16:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
21. It is technically canon. Roron Corobb

^Talk 20:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

1. As much as I hate to see this as such, it is canon. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
2. Why, shouldn't we keep it? It's Christmas! Fatguy2006 20:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Keep as ambiguously canon. Cutch 22:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
4. Too, too good to delete. Thanos6 00:30, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
5. Whoops, that IP vote was me, I guess I forgot to log in. --Thetoastman 03:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Keep, but we desperately need a template for easter eggs that clearly weren't intended to be canon despite appearing in canonical sources, like Santa, Max, and Simon. jSarek 08:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
7. Keep. And it should definitely be FA. MartinMcCann 16:11, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
8. Not the only and not the last 'bad joke and other nonsense' article MoffRebus 00:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
9. Keep, per above. Adamwankenobi 01:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
10. Keep and create easter egg template. And anyone who votes for the deletion of this article will receive coal every Christmas for the rest of their lives.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 01:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
11. Kip--Prymonek 21:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
12. Scwhinky^Communicate 22:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
13. Keep, but with the various disclaimer templates just to avoid confusing the humourless. 8) —Silly Dan _(talk)
14. Keep it. ~~ ^{Commander Jorrel Fraajic} File:Insignia.jpg|20px _{Communications Relay} ~~ 02:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
15. There is no such thing as Santa in SW but you can't delete it !Darth Nospher 18:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
16. If he is a character from a canonical movie/book/game/etc. we should have an article on him, shouldn't we? If not let's start deleting non-canonical articles. Emperor Maakurder 's comlink 20:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Delete

1. Sikon 16:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
2. For Christmas maybe but no longer than that. --Gurbiza 16:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Delete or archive after the 26th. - TopAce 17:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
4. --Eyrezer 10:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
5. KEJ 01:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Unsilviu:We should keep it on 24-27 Dec, but no more

Keep but rewrite from a non-canon perspective

1. This reminds me of Wookieepedia:Votes for deletion/England.–Sentry^Talk 06:39, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
2. Ozzel 21:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
3. Brain40 17:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
4. All we have is an easter egg in a video game and a code in a non-canon game. -Milo Fett^Comlink 23:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
5. As per Milo Fett. This is purely an Easter Egg, which are not canon. Period. MaclimesZero 23:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
6. Definitely need an easter egg template. anyone up to making one? Maybe I will. --Bredd13_comlink ALTA in a GFFA
7. Atarumaster88 ^{(Audience Chamber)} 18:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
8. Jorrel Fraajic Communications Relay 18:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
9. Valin Kenobi 04:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
10. N.Y.N.E.^Comlink 06:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
11. (jabspike06)there are no santa in star wars he is not in that galaxy

Merge

1. Into List of references to Earth in Star Wars. Totema ^{Comlink Frequency} 19:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• Administrators are willing to keep this article? Ok, sorry, I should have known this was a temporary joke after all. :) --Gurbiza 19:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• If they want to make it FA for Dec 25, go ahead, but immediately after I request that the article be deemed non-canon or at the least an easter egg, because that is what it is, or we are really stretching suspension of disbelief. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Well, the Easter Egg never gives any indication of being an Earth-related thing, does it? It's just a character on a Rebel ship dressed like our Santa Claus and bearing his name. :) VT-16 12:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Funny. I think you just mentioned the indication. :) But what's the point of arguing anymore? I suppose everyone here already understood this is a joke that will be removed after Christmas. --Gurbiza 14:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • No, I didn't. He only wears a suit similar to one from Earth fairytales. If nothing related to Earth is ever said explicitly, it's an in-universe character. Anything else would be like suggesting the Tiss'sharl are the same as Earth's velociraptors and therefore not an in-universe species. VT-16 21:51, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Er, why should it be removed? Christmas is annual, so it's not as if this article won't be relevant ever again - \\Captain Kwenn// ^{— Ahoy!} 16:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    • ...Please, all of you, do we want people to trust Wookieepedia or not? George Lucas once said Yoda is a frog. Hey, that's G canon, we should state that as a canonical fact in the Yoda article, don't you think? --Gurbiza 21:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
      • That was obviously a joke. You can interpret Santas appearance as a joke but being that he's appeared in two canon sources, he is canon and nobody has said otherwise, he stays. Like it or not. Learn live with it. --Redemption^Talk 21:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
        • I voted keep because it's canon by Wookieepedia standards. But if you actually looked in the Holocron and asked Pablo Hidalgo, I'm pretty sure he'd just laugh. --Thetoastman 03:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Obviously a joke? Actually, until Lucas tells us otherwise, it is just as canon as this is. If indeed by Wookieepedia definition this qualifies as canon then perhaps the logical course of action would be to revise the definition? The template suggested above is also a good idea and that would be enough to satisfy me. As long as we don't give people the idea we really consider this absolute canon. --Gurbiza 10:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
• Christmas in the Stars also introduces Santa into the Star Wars universe. Except that Santa himself stays in our galaxy while his son S. Claus does the Star Wars galaxy. :P Tobar 12:21, 25 December 2006
  • Gurbiza, Santa Claus is canon. Yoda being a frog isn't. Get used to it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 01:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
    • And we can't take every offhand comment by Lucas as canon.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 01:47, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Of course we can't but Easter eggs and Christmas theme mixes made for fun we can? Oh yes, they "appeared in a licensed source". Well, if that is the general idea of canon, then so be it. This mindless inflation is getting totally out of hands. Just as I was getting used to Ewoks. --Gurbiza 09:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
• Template saves the day! I made a template. Horray for me. Template:Easteregg. Or, as Lucasarts calls them, "Wookiee-Cookies". I'll place one on Santa. Put one on any easter egg article you can think of. Bredd13_comlink ALTA in a GFFA 04:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• On that note, it's been a week; I think the vote is in. We should remove the deletion template. Bredd13_comlink ALTA in a GFFA 20:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• When is the final decision meant to be made? Keep outnumbers Delete 7:1, so its pretty obvious keep has won. -NighthawkLeader 02:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Since there are four different opinions listed I think we should have a renomination (keep and rewrite from a non-canon perspective). Some of those who voted for keep wanted to have the Easter egg template, after all. --Gurbiza 13:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
• SANTA! Why did he give me a lump of Yavin coal? I haven't been bad, I just destroyed 3 planets in December! That's 9 planets below my average!

Keep. It did come from X-Wing didn't it? That's canonical. Emperor Maakurder 's comlink 15:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)