Forum:TC:Revan's parents

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The result of the debate was delete. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 12:34, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Revan's parents

• Revan's father (talk - history - links - logs)
• Revan's mother (talk - history - links - logs)

The basis for these articles is a quote by Kreia in KOTOR 2: "Revan had a mother and father, parents, ancestors, like all Jedi do." The thing is, we don't know anything about these people. We don't know whether they were married, where they were from, or how they lived. We know Revan had two parents, but we could say the same for any other non-clone human, and a good number of aliens. Now, you might say that these two individuals are explicitly mentioned by Kreia. But she's not claiming she knew Revan's parents, since she disavows knowledge of his early childhood. Rather, she is merely saying that he had a father and mother, like everyone else. So, Kreia isn't actually mentioning two specific individuals, just making a general statement that Revan came from someone and somewhere like anyone else. -LtNOWIS 13:01, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Keep

Delete

1. LtNOWIS 13:01, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
2. Like a deletionist, I feel that it falls under the category of "Trivia articles", which are useless to the readers because they repeat the obvious fact. Saying "Revan had a mother" is the same as saying "This individual was present in crowd on Coruscant, as you can see on this picture. Mauser^Comlink 13:10, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
3. The quote can be incorporated into the article about Revan instead, if desired. Nistra^Talk 14:26, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
4. When I heard this TC was going to be created, I originally planned on voting keep considering they are explicitly mentioned, and that just because something (an individual in this case) is only mentioned in passing and we have virtually no information on the subject does not qualify it for deletion. But that being said, after some consideration, I agree that this statement is meant as a generic reference to where Revan came from as an individual, not necessarily to two specific individuals. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:38, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
5. Per Tope. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 20:40, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
6. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 21:00, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
7. Per all of the above. Darth Karika^{Answering Machine} 21:04, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
8. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 21:22, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
9. I'm being a conformist here. And I agree, unless they actually have some magical appearance somewhere between now and when this gets enough votes.—B-Boba Fett! ^{Make the check out to "Boba Fett"} 21:25, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
10. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 21:39, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
11. Grunny ^(Talk) 21:41, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
12. Also, not every human has two parents—Anakin Skywalker had no father, at least not in the traditional sense. —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 22:45, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
    • So, does that make him a Humidichlorian? - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 23:30, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
13. "Articles" with no content beyond a verbose tautology aren't articles. jSarek 23:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
14. I suppose, but what about Jaina Solo (Elder)?--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 00:15, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
    • If something has an IU name, the notability is unquestionable. Mauser^Comlink 12:07, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
      • Well, we don't really know if her surname was Solo. Maybe she kept her original one. -Nistra^Talk 13:30, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
15. JangFett ^(Talk) 12:14, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
16. Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk 13:19, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
17. --Xd1358 ^Talk 13:27, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
18. Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(Jedi Beacon)} 17:43, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
19. Per Toprawa. OLIOSTER ^(talk) 12:25, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

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