Forum:TC:Notability species, part 1

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete all except Aurra Sing's father's species, which is kept. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:09, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Notability species, part 1

• Aga Culpa's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Aia's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Allic's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Ame Llom's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Asa Naga's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Aurra Sing's father's species (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Baco Par's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Ban Papeega's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Besum's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
• Bezz Drexx's species (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Per the Mofference and the new notability policy on the species, all of these are non-notable and should be deleted. Unless you can prove that the species satisfies one of the points stated in the policy, there's no reason to vote keep. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

• For reference, the new policy is located at Wookieepedia:Notability policy. —MJ— _{Council Chambers} 08:31, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Aga Culpa

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:42, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Aia

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Allic

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Ame Llom

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Not enough information in the article as it stands to make it necessary to keep it. Easily recreated if her species is ever identified, or her backstory is explored significantly enough to say anything about her species. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
7. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
8. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
9. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
10. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

1. Per Corellian Preier's comment in he discussion section. KEJ (talk) 17:08, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Asa Naga

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Definitely. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Aurra Sing's father

Delete

Keep

1. I think this is the significant description exception. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Sort of described in dialog... and, of course, has relations to a major character. KEJ (talk) 17:06, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Aurra Sing's father is also a member of the species, so this meets the multiple individuals exception. Also, per Corellian Premier. --Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
   • To clarify, it's Aurra Sing's father, not Sing. Cade Calrayn 17:14, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
     • Yes, but as Sing is a mixed race member of the species, I think it is reasonable to treat her as a member of the species for these purposes, rather than to apply the rule strictly to only full-blooded members of species. In addition, to further clarify the reasoning behind my voting choice, in Legacy of the Force: Tempest Sing states My father was a ghost in the night, and I doubt even my mother knew his species–but it was obviously a long-lived one. This, specifically the fact that her father's species was, from an in-universe perspective, unknown and also that he was of a long-lived species, in my view constitutes significant description. Either way, I think this is sufficiently notable for us to keep. --Jinzler (talk) 17:27, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. To be fair, it doesn't say his species was totally unknown, just unknown to Sing and probably her mother. Still just enough background. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
10. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Baco Par

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Ban Papeega

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:06, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Besum

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:07, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Bezz Drexx

Delete

1. Cade Calrayn 03:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
3. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
4. Jinzler (talk) 17:13, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
5. —MJ— ^{Jedi Council Chambers} 20:49, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
6. —Silly Dan _(talk) 20:59, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
7. Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:28, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
9. MasterFred^(Whatever) 03:11, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
10. Winterz (talk) 14:07, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
11. Trip391 (talk) 05:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
12. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:37, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

Discussion

1. I'll abstain for now, but isn't it possible that as a movie species, Ame Llom's species could fall under the "significant development" exception? Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 16:09, January 26, 2014 (UTC)
   • No, because there's no information on the species. If there was any for the BTS, maybe, but not here. Cade Calrayn 17:15, January 26, 2014 (UTC)