This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Keep both. Grunny (talk) 09:32, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
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Mace Windu's lightsaber (talk - history - links - logs) and also Windu's lightsaber (talk - history - links - logs)
Okay, this was one of several articles placed in the trash-compactor as a group. The result of the group compacting attempt was No Consensus. Brought up here and here, in an attempt to make a site-wide policy. The policy in the works seems to effectively place each in the TC anyway. So here they are, individual Trash-Compactors for each article.SinisterSamurai 05:52, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Keep Both
- For the longest time, I was completely opposed to having articles on any lightsabers. But then Tommy did a great job with Lumiya's lightwhip, and others could easily follow. Then I realized that many lightsabers - if not all of them - are unique items, many with interesting histories. And lastly, I remembered an article we have on the Bimkall sector - something that doesn't even exist in-universe. If we have an article on a nonexistent sector, then I see no reason why we shouldn't have articles on lightsabers. Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 18:37, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- They're about two completely different lightsabers, so keep both, but stick some {{youmay}}s on them. But yeah, per Tranner (again). Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 18:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Consider me a recent convert. Chack Jadson (Talk) 18:57, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- CC7567 (talk) 18:57, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Jedi Kasra (comlink) 20:50, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Borsk Fey'lya Talk 14:31, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Grunny (talk) 00:32, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:36, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- How can not keep? It has a koovy purplish blade! ~ SavageBob 02:51, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Both have unique information/histories. Havac 09:04, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- -- 1358 (Talk) 17:22, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:50, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Phew, the last one for me. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 18:19, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- --DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 10:35, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- --TK-299 (Click Here)
13:04, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Keep Windu's Lightsaber
Keep Mace Windu's lightsaber
- Graestan(Talk) 19:21, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:30, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Kill Both
- SinisterSamurai 05:52, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 17:55, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
As much as I like Mace Windu and his lightsabers.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:01, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Imperialles 18:22, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 21:46, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- NaruHina Talk
23:08, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Comment
I'm seriously disappointed in anyone that votes "Keep Both." SinisterSamurai 05:52, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- In Soviet Russia, we are disappointed in you. Chack Jadson (Talk) 18:57, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- I have to interject here. I'm getting tired of people saying things like this when they see something not going their way. Look, I'm disappointed about things on the wook, too, at times. Still, we are a community, and regardless of whether or not we like everything, we need to try to work together and build said community. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:32, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- He posted that message at the very beginning of the TC… --Imperialles 15:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Nonetheless, the point stands. Did SinisterSamurai have to say that? Absolutely not. Was my message needed? No. Fiolli's point is that there's a lot of political infighting on this site. A lot of people are guilty of it, including me. I just think it's sad that it's come to this. Chack Jadson (Talk) 16:50, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll be honest. I didn't even skim the articles. I was nominating something like 23 articles with extreme indifference, and I was under the impression both articles were referring to the same lightsaber. Hopefully that explains comments made over two weeks ago. At the time, there was no animosity nor any Wookieepolitical motivation behind the comment, just haste-bred ignorance. Any other interpretation is a figment by the reader. And if anyone else feels like reading further into the comments than that, or trying to put more words in my mouth, you can feel free to personally select 7-10 obscenities of your preference, string them together in a sentence, and pretend I directed it at you. Otherwise, lets all try to move on. SinisterSamurai 17:14, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- This disturbs me that we would have articles TC'd, especially 23 of them, without even looking at them. You did look at them, right? Isn't there the chance that at least one of them could be worth keeping if it read like Lumiya's lightwhip? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:38, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
- This is starting to get old. I must genuinely be doing something wrong, because this is the third time an admin has assumed bad faith on this particular little project. I think maybe you were a little late for this party, so I put together some recommended reading for you regarding this series of TCs. I'll sum up: It was brought up by someone else entirely. Chack personally recommended that it be moved to a CT. After two weeks, I put the seemingly agreed-upon policy up for Consensus. I put them up for TC because that was the result of the consensus. SinisterSamurai 09:06, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
- This disturbs me that we would have articles TC'd, especially 23 of them, without even looking at them. You did look at them, right? Isn't there the chance that at least one of them could be worth keeping if it read like Lumiya's lightwhip? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:38, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll be honest. I didn't even skim the articles. I was nominating something like 23 articles with extreme indifference, and I was under the impression both articles were referring to the same lightsaber. Hopefully that explains comments made over two weeks ago. At the time, there was no animosity nor any Wookieepolitical motivation behind the comment, just haste-bred ignorance. Any other interpretation is a figment by the reader. And if anyone else feels like reading further into the comments than that, or trying to put more words in my mouth, you can feel free to personally select 7-10 obscenities of your preference, string them together in a sentence, and pretend I directed it at you. Otherwise, lets all try to move on. SinisterSamurai 17:14, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Nonetheless, the point stands. Did SinisterSamurai have to say that? Absolutely not. Was my message needed? No. Fiolli's point is that there's a lot of political infighting on this site. A lot of people are guilty of it, including me. I just think it's sad that it's come to this. Chack Jadson (Talk) 16:50, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- He posted that message at the very beginning of the TC… --Imperialles 15:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- I have to interject here. I'm getting tired of people saying things like this when they see something not going their way. Look, I'm disappointed about things on the wook, too, at times. Still, we are a community, and regardless of whether or not we like everything, we need to try to work together and build said community. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 15:32, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should merge them both together as "Mace Windu's Lightsabers" or something along that nature --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 23:13, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
- At this point, that would have to be another TC or CT thread. The goal of this round of TCs was to collect quantifiable opinions as a basis for future notability policy. People's reasons for voting were more important to me than the actual votes, and I'm happy that I got as many unique voting comments as I did.SinisterSamurai 17:32, May 30, 2010 (UTC)