Forum:TC:Kilji vassals

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus. OOM 224 09:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Unidentified Kilji vassal (weapons) (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Kilji vassal — A Kilji vassal is a follower of the Kilji religious beliefs, what are they? Well, they make the vassals unable to move or think without a master (Generalirius Nakirre), this is basically a droid with three lines that are common for Kilji vassals. (Uncommon examples are: Vassal Four (Protests) and Unidentified Kilji vassal (Explains the Kilji religious beliefs)) This vassal's dialogue is standard dialogue for a vassal, and these lines are not notable. Dialogue above.— Samonic 10:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete

1. As nominator. — Samonic 10:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
2. They do have dialogue, but the lines are insubstantial in my view, and there's not much going on in regards to these to individual vassals so as to warrant individual pages for them. It's best to just cover the same information on other relevant articles. OOM 224 10:19, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
3. We seriously do not need articles for individuals who only contribute simple, robot-like questions and confirmations—no matter how many—to a dialogue. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
4. Lewisr (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
5. Rsand 30 (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
6. Per Imp. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 15:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
7. This is a tough one but I agree with Imp's reasoning. I think generic Q&A type dialogue is not notable even if it's more than one line. Wok142 (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
8. This was tough and I'm still a bit on the fence, but Imp's reasoning is what swayed me --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
9. Not a difficult decision for me. Multiple non-notable lines of dialogue =/= notability. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 04:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
10. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 04:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
11. NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 17:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
12. OOM and Imperators make the case well. Asithol (talk) 16:24, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
13. KingWookiee (talk) 07:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

1. Multiple lines of dialogue is a solid enough foundation for an article. We've kept droid articles with at least two lines of dialogue before. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
2. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 10:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
3. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 10:43, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
4. Significant dialogue VergenceScatter (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
5. Multiple lines of dialogue in a plot relevant moment. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 15:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
6. Why we're even considering deleting someone with multiple lines is beyond me Fan26 (Talk) 16:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
7. Per Shay. LucaRoR ^(Talk) 17:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
9. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:51, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
10. Dentface (talk) 07:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified Kilji vassal (Pilot) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

See above. Dialogue above. — Samonic 10:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete

1. As nominator. — Samonic 10:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
2. OOM 224 10:19, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
3. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
4. Lewisr (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
5. Rsand 30 (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
6. Two lines that acknowledge a command aren't enough for a book character imo --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:58, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
7. Wok142 (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
8. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 04:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
9. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 04:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
10. NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 17:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
11. Asithol (talk) 16:24, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
12. KingWookiee (talk) 07:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep

1. Per my reasoning above. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
2. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 10:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
3. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 10:43, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
4. VergenceScatter (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
5. Multiple lines of dialogue in a plot relevant moment. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 15:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
6. When did the Wook become so intensely exclusionist in philosophy? Fan26 (Talk) 17:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
7. LucaRoR ^(Talk) 17:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
9. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:51, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
10. Dentface (talk) 07:23, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Worth noting that should articles relating to these be nominated for status, these articles would likely be requested during the review process. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 15:28, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Nice to know, thanks.— Samonic 17:43, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
    • I mean, that depends on who's reviewing. I know I certainly wouldn't. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 06:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
      • This wouldn't be an objection that would keep articles from passing, would it? It shouldn't—not all consider this notable, and because some do, the ones who don't shouldn't need to include the articles they consider not-notable. (Also, these articles wouldn't really need to be linked because the dialogue shouldn't really be included in a FA (Qilori, the only article that would need to link them in any case), as it's not really significant or important to the main subject; saying something like this would be sufficient: A Kilji vassal informed the pathfinder of the consequences of having no master—who was the late generalirius Nakire—which prompted Qilori to propose himself as the master of the vassals aboard the Whetstone […])— Samonic 11:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)