Forum:TC:Jedi sniper

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was merge with Jedi. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Jedi sniper (talk - history - links - logs)

This is similar to other pages that have been up for nomination. All the info is based on a repeated video game character template. The behind the scenes section even says this is describing "game play," or game mechanics. If we need more reasons to delete, I'm sure someone will come up with one. Seems a no brainer. IthinkIwannaLeia^WaddaUthink? 00:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Delete

1. IthinkIwannaLeia^WaddaUthink? 00:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Keep

1. Why delete or merge? It's a Jedi rank or post, like Jedi Watchman or Jedi instructor. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 05:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
   • Because Leeland Chee confirmed it to be an OOU term unlike those two? Mauser^Comlink 08:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
2. If it's simply game mechanics, then put a template saying that it's {{non-canon}}. Better than losing information, and personally to me, merging is practically always losing at least some information unless two articles undoubtedly cover the same subject. Cyfiero 06:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
   • The trick is, they aren't non-canon as, for example, Beach trooper. It is quite possible that those Jedi were canonically present during the Operation: Knightfall and were utilizing Saber throw against both Anakin/Vader and the 501st troopers. But that alone doesn't mean they should have their own article. We don't have articles like [[Form I user]], are those any better? Mauser^Comlink 08:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
     

• Actually, a Form I user is far more obvious to not have their own article. But in any case, I see your point. Cyfiero 05:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge

1. Merge/Redirect with Jedi. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
2. Gameplay mechanic. Make it go away. Havac 02:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
3. IFYLOFD ^{(You will pay the price for your lack of vision!)} 02:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
4. Merge in the Jedi Order per my comments below. Mauser^Comlink 04:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
5. Cylka^-talk- 05:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
6. Grunny ^(Talk) 05:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
7. Per Havac. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 05:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
8. CC7567 ^(talk) 06:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
9. As long as we've consulted our Chee. Graestan^(Talk) 19:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
10. —Lucius malfoy7 ^{Liberty 00:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)}
11. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 11:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
12. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is a lie)} 11:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
13. Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 11:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
14. --Eyrezer 12:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
15. Per Tope. ^Jorrel_Fraajic 18:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
16. Per Toprawa. This is the same situation as Jedi Brute. Cylka^-talk- 23:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments

• I'd like to implement the images into an article. Any ideas? IthinkIwannaLeia^WaddaUthink? 00:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
• More experienced user needed!: I tried to do the same thing for Jedi brute, but it was up for deletion several years ago. so now its TC discussion page goes to the archieved page. What do we do? They decided to keep it 2 years ago, but I think our opinions as a whole have changed since then (the site has matured). Does anyone know how do debate this again? IthinkIwannaLeia^WaddaUthink? 00:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Done. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 06:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
• Sorry for all the comments: In reviewing the articles talk page, one user says if we delete "Jedi sniper," we should delete "Jedi Guardian" and "Jedi Sentinel," because these are just classification of video games too. I don't know what my response to that is. Does anyone have thoughts? Perhaps we have become too delete happy?IthinkIwannaLeia^WaddaUthink? 00:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
  • That's exactly what I've been trying to push lately via the Forum:CT:Articles on soldier types. In response to Jedi Guardian and Jedi Sentinel: note how BTS sections of both pages lists exactly what printed source brought them from game mechanics into actual canon. The Jedi Sniper, considering Chee's comments, has little chances of experiencing the same. Mauser^Comlink 04:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)