This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete, merge info into House Palpatine and character articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:50, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
House Palpatine massacre (talk - history - links - logs)
I'm nominating this for deletion because it sort of...baffles me. This wasn't an "event" per se. Sure, it happened, but it was a domestic dispute that ended in multiple homicide. At best, you could say it was a scuffle, but scuffles don't really deserve articles, do they? For those of you who haven't read DP, Palpatine isn't a Sith yet, so it isn't a mission or official duty. He gets mad and kills his family. It's not an event with "commanders" and "strength" and all that. All of this can be rolled into character articles and the House Palpatine article. And if we have this, why don't we have one for the Murder of Owen and Beru Lars, or the Murder of Padmé Amdiala? We might as well have an article for every time someone kills someone else.
Delete, merge info into House Palpatine and character articles
- Seriously, just look at the infobox. Combatants: Palpatine; Commanders: Palpatine; Strength: Palpatine. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 21:07, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. Cade Calrayn
21:16, May 28, 2012 (UTC) - Redrum! Redrum! -- Darth Culator (Talk) 21:31, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
- —MJ— Training Room Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 14:09 UTC
- —Cal Jedi
(Personal Comm Channel) 14:12, May 29, 2012 (UTC) - Oh, an anon created this one instead of just amending the House Palpatine article where it belonged? Colour me shocked. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 14:17, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Per Cade's comment below. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:22, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 15:23, May 29, 2012 (UTC) - —Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:08, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Menkooroo 00:25, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
- The infobox deserves an entry in the deleted crap and nonsense page. :P JangFett (Talk) 03:23, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:11, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
Keep
- I actually have to disagree here. Think in-universe. This event was the slaughtering of a prominent Naboo house, which makes it a notable event in its own right. Simply because the information can be placed in the House Palatine article does not make this unneeded. Information in the article for any skirmish in any war and any election to any office could be placed as part of the war or office's article with this rationale. Really, deleting this would be akin to having an article on Kitty Genovese and saying we don't need a specific article on the murder of Kitty Genovese. NaruHina Talk
16:27, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Besides both those links going to the same article–Kitty Genovese differs in that that one event is what makes her name notable. House Palpatine is a notable subject in and of itself, and this falls under that header. This is an event in the history of House Palpatine, its place is in the House Palpatine article. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 18:25, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I was rushing to the bus when I picked Kitty. /shrug I'd still say that applying that argument says that any aspect of a war would be "an event in the history of [that war], its place is in the [Insert War Here] article." House Palpatine is a very important Naboo house and the killing of all its members is a notable event. Furthermore, rushing, I didn't have time to say to Cade's argument: I'm not saying it's a battle: it's an event, which is hidden by the choice of using the Battle infobox in lieu of one without a casualties field. That field isn't really necessary anyway. Either way, if it was the battle it's infobox implies, that the victims were unarmed does not make it any less of a fight. NaruHina Talk 18:59, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I was rushing to the bus when I picked Kitty. /shrug I'd still say that applying that argument says that any aspect of a war would be "an event in the history of [that war], its place is in the [Insert War Here] article." House Palpatine is a very important Naboo house and the killing of all its members is a notable event. Furthermore, rushing, I didn't have time to say to Cade's argument: I'm not saying it's a battle: it's an event, which is hidden by the choice of using the Battle infobox in lieu of one without a casualties field. That field isn't really necessary anyway. Either way, if it was the battle it's infobox implies, that the victims were unarmed does not make it any less of a fight. NaruHina Talk
- Besides both those links going to the same article–Kitty Genovese differs in that that one event is what makes her name notable. House Palpatine is a notable subject in and of itself, and this falls under that header. This is an event in the history of House Palpatine, its place is in the House Palpatine article. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 18:25, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Per Naru. It's not a battle, but its a notable enough event.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 16:51, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. Corellian PremierAll along the watchtower 03:03, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Cumulonimbus Cloud (Meeting Room) 01:08, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
Comments
The Massacre on the Star-Wake article appears to be based on a similar premise, so, depending upon the outcome of this TC thread, we may want to consider nominating that for deletion as well. --Jinzler 21:20, May 28, 2012 (UTC)