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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was No consensus for both. Imperators II(Talk) 14:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Crowbar

WP:DICT case. We don't really have a strictly-IU alternative to the functionality of a crowbar so there's nothing to suggest incongruency, beyond the fact that crates are typically opened easily without a tool, via a lock, or by being smashed (none of which parallel the functionality of a crowbar to begin with).

Delete

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 20:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. The lever is a stone-age tool. You may as well say it's incongruous that we have levers (of which a crowbar is one type) in our own modern world, given the advanced machinery we have. Incongruity requires the item in question to have some level of complexity to it; the braces cited by our dictionary policy are a specific configuration of many small parts. Simple tools will always be around to do simple jobs. There is nothing incongruous about this. (Additionally, it's absurd to claim a lightsaber or laser cutter do the same job as a crowbar. Crowbar the lid off a crate, and you can put it back on later. Good luck doing that after you've lightsabered it off.) Asithol (talk)

Keep

  1. I actually think that this qualifies under the "so utterly basic and non-alien that it creates a unique incongruity" since this is a setting with lightsabers, handsized mobile laser cutters, and all sorts of other high tech tools, it begs the question why a simple crowbar would be used instead. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 02:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. it's a tool article Fan26 (Talk) 03:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Rsand 30 (talk) 04:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 04:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 23:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
  6. —spookywillowwtalk 23:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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Prybar

The basic prybar page also applies to the whole WP:DICT shibang, though I believe this one has further credence in that it honestly should have been merged with crowbar to begin with. There is a specialized type of prybar—the power prybar and in turn the prybar 2800—that already has its own page, but as an all-encompassing page there's nothing that makes a standard prybar unique or really incongruent, and only the power prybar and prybar 2800 pages are necessary.

Delete

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 20:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. Asithol (talk) 20:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Keep

  1. See above. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 02:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Fan26 (Talk) 03:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Rsand 30 (talk) 04:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 04:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  5. What if there's a prybar that is neither the power prybar nor the prybar 2800, which, comparing their Appearances sections, seems to be the case? OOM 224 (he/him) 08:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
  6. Lewisr (talk) 23:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
  7. —spookywillowwtalk 23:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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