Forum:TC:City-state/Canon

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was No consensus. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

City-state/Canon (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Looks like a straightforeward case of WP:DICT to me. Similar to the TC'd "Nation", there is no uniqueness in Star Wars. -ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 22:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete

1. As nominator. -ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 22:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
2. Just because we may have some other pages, doesn't mean that pages that don't pass notability shouldn't be deleted if there's nothing unique about them Lewisr (talk) 23:13, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
   • The main sake of comparing this page to the others in my keep vote was that this page, like those, serves a distinct purpose, even with a lack of uniqueness. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:41, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
     • I understand, though this page would then just be redundant to city and all other relevant pages where city-states are Lewisr (talk) 00:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
3. NanoLuuke^{Cloning Facility} 23:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
4. Samonic ^(he/him) 08:33, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
5. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 04:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
6. No in-universe uniqueness. Rsand 30 (talk) 11:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
7. A clear violation of WP:DICT. Asithol (talk) 21:26, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Keep

1. I know that this is exactly the kind of TC I would usually vote delete on, but I'm in favor of keep here. In concept this page serves the same role as city, planet, and any other "type" of location, and it helps define and provide examples of such locations. We have many such pages that have been voted keep in the past and I see no reason why this should be an exception. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
   • I would much appreciate if you could provide an example of a similar types of locations being "voted" to be kept in the past. Both planet and city have never been TC'd and I'm not quite sure even if city deserves a page. I am leaning towards keep on city, because real world cities do not cover an entire planet, but that's off topic. -ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 22:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
     • I am not referring to location pages in specific, but generalized pages that help define what things are. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:45, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
2. per above Editoronthewiki (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
3. Fan26 (Talk) 22:37, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
4. —spookywilloww^talk 00:28, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
5. Dropbearemma (she/her) 08:31, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
6. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 08:44, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
7. Dentface (talk) 18:03, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
8. VergenceScatter (talk) 21:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
9. Exiled Jedi (talk) 04:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
10. JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 22:25, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
11. Dentface (talk) 22:41, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• I'm not sure if the Legends version has uniqueness, so I'm not nominating that right now. -ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 22:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
• Interesting that WP:DICT is being brought up. Going by the texts this article is a clear violation of it, but it looks like the community is trending away from the policy, creating more precedents for keeping at least certain types of dictionary definition articles. OOM 224 (he/him) 08:11, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
  • I mean, trends for exceptions definitely exist (and have existed for some time now). Foods, creatures, occupations, terrain types... Imperators II^(Talk) 09:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
• Was there ever a discussion about whether city should exist? Or planet, etc? Loqiical (talk) 09:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)