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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus. 1358 (Talk) 09:10, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Another Hope (talk - history - links - logs)

I was surfing random articles and found this. Obvious fanfiction and there doesn't seem to be any notable reason to keep it.

Keep

  1. Probably the most notorious SW fanfic in history, with multiple references in mainstream media including NPR, SciFi Wire, The Daytona Beach News Journal, not to mention extensive coverage throughout fandom (it was a BIG hullabaloo in the fanfiction community at the time) and Lucasfilm recognition in the form of a Cease and Desist order. If we really want to get rid of all fan-related topics on the Wook (which, admittedly, it seems is now community consensus), we really ought to have a CT establishing that and deleting Wookieepedia:Notability of fan projects first. jSarek (talk) 04:12, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  2. This evidence swayed my vote. Trak Nar Ramble on 05:10, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Per JSarek. (: – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 05:25, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Should be kept until and unless the policy changes to disallow all fan activity articles. —Silly Dan (talk) 12:34, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Per JSarek. Not that I'm particularly attached to this article, but I do not wish to pave the way to the deletion of all notable fan activity articles. --LelalMekha (talk) 18:24, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:10, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  7. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 20:29, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
    • We are not simply a Star Wars canon wiki. We are more of a Star Wars history wiki that focuses on canon. Were we merely a canon wiki, why would we bother having articles on the sources or the music? Unless the characters were walking through deserts with grains of sand magically imbued with the works of John Williams. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 22:52, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
      • Or the hundreds of people who contributed to the making of those things, for that matter? NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 22:58, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
  8. Per jSarek and Dan. —MJ— Training Room Thursday, July 12, 2012, 20:51 UTC
    And also extremely per Naru. —MJ— Council Chambers Monday, July 16, 2012, 18:38 UTC
  9. While I don't necessarily like it being here, I believe that this is a notable enough fanfiction to have it here. Not so much for other fanfics. There's a wiki for that. --The Lampshade... (talk) 21:29, July 12, 2012 (UTC)Lamp774
  10. I'm voting to keep because it is a significant event. Corellian PremierRobotechAll along the watchtower 21:44, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  11. Meets our notability requirements. Menkooroo (talk) 20:20, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
  12. The requirements are what they are. Our attitude towards fan stuff is too fickle, and that's why standard policies exist. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 00:41, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
  13. Keep, because though it is a fanfic, I believe it is notable enough to be on here.Supreme Emperor (talk) 12:01, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
  14. Per, um, Trayus. And others. Enochf (talk) 19:44, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Export it to the Fan Wiki and kill this one off

  1. I see no reason to have this on the Wook <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 01:52, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  2. 100% support from me.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 02:51, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Join my purge! Join us.... join us.... Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 02:55, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
    • Grunny is gonna have a lot of stuff to export. :P Trak Nar Ramble on 03:01, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Darth Culator (Talk) 03:38, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  5. The door is over there JangFett (Talk) 05:06, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  6. This is completely a fan thing. Why is it even here? — DigiFluid(Whine here) 12:46, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 20:09, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  8. Gal-icon OLIOSTER (talk) 20:11, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  9. Whether or not this meets the criteria of our pathetically weak Notability rules, consider this a vote in protest of them. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:34, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  10. Per Tope. We're a comprehensive canon wiki. Let the fanon be transported somewhere else.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 22:34, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
  11. 501st dogma(talk) 20:42, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
  12. I don't see how this is a contribution to IU canon that we purportedly revolve around, either as content unto itself or as an external creative force that shaped canon. DD97Which bear is best? 04:21, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
  13. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:14, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
  14. DarthRevan1173 (talk) 00:19, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Just kill it

Discussion

Just a suggestion, if this article is kept, then it needs some serious updating to explain why it's notable. Right now, there's nothing to indicate it was not much more than a fanfic story. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 03:06, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

  • Whoever ultimately decides to take on this task will find this useful. It's where I found the links to the old media reports, and contains a lot more links covering the fandom firestorm. jSarek (talk) 09:45, July 16, 2012 (UTC)