Forum:TC:Animal

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This page is an archive of the Trash compactor discussion about the future of Wookieepedia's coverage of the topic(s) listed below, including whether or not to delete or redirect the relevant page(s). This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the relevant talk pages or in the Senate Hall forum rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 03:13, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Contents

  • 1 Animal (history - links - logs - delete - protect) -- Organism (history - links - logs - delete - protect)
  • 2 Voting
    • 2.1 Delete
    • 2.2 Keep
    • 2.3 Discussion

Animal (history - links - logs - delete - protect) -- Organism (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

With all due respect to the user who just created this article, I submit once again that Wookieepedia is not a dictionary and nominate this article for deletion. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:45, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

  • Edit: Noting that I have now grouped Organism into this TC for the same reason. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:03, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Voting

Delete

  1. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:45, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
  2. I really don't see the need for either of these articles.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:09, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
  3. There's almost always a point where something is unique enough to warrant an article, a point where something is notably "Star Wars-y" enough to need its own page. "Animal" and "organism" don't cut it. "Organism" is quite literally a dictionary definition based on our own universe (from an educational video game, so it really can't be anything else), and WOOKIEEPEDIA IS NOT A DICTIONARY. (I swear, I'm going to add that to the edit forms.) Animal is also a dictionary definition, and redundant to species. Algae and plant have sufficient otherworldliness - we don't know of any real sentient plants or algae in gas giants, do we? -- Darth Culator (Talk) 23:11, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
    • Would it be fine in your book if I relocated the relevant pieces of information in the "species" article, then? --Lelal Mekha Old Republic military symbol (Audience Room) 23:15, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
  4. The info can be merged into species. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 00:35, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Culator, how about adding it to WP:NOT?. —MJ— Training Room 04:38, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
  6. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 00:10, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
  7. Winterz (talk) 00:19, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
  8. Trip391 (talk) 07:08, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
  9. Supreme Emperor (talk) 14:11, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
  10. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:13, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
  11. 1358 (Talk) 17:28, March 16, 2014 (UTC)
  12. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:40, March 16, 2014 (UTC)
  13. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 04:25, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
  14. I am not an animal! Manoof (talk) 04:50, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Keep

  1. I've decided to vote 'keep' because of Anakin Skywalker's comparison of Tuskens to animals, which suggest some sort of IU status... and, no, I won't discuss this further. KEJ (talk) 23:35, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Yeah, it's called the dictionary, which is the whole point of this TC. 5. an inhuman person; brutish or beastlike person: She married an animal. Wookieepedia is not a dictionary. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:51, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

  • With all due respect too, I actually was expecting this. Then my question is: will you delete algae and plant too? Because we do know that plants, algae and animals are the three categories of organisms not just in real science, but in Star Wars science too. The thing is that we've got to be consistent here: if we have articles on algae and plants, we've got to have one on animals too. --Lelal Mekha Old Republic military symbol (Audience Room) 22:50, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
    • I don't plan on nominating those for TC. I think those are markedly more specific in their grouping than "animal," which is very broad. I realize that "species" covers plants too, but our Species article can basically cover "animals." Having an "animal" article would be the equivalent of having an article on "non-sentient species." We wouldn't create an article for "sentient species," so we really don't need this. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:11, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
  • In that terrible movie called Attack of the Clones, Anakin Skywalker compares the tribe of Tuskens that he murdered to animals. Does that not reflect some degree IU significance of the concept of animal and an IU perception of how animals are treated as opposed to sentients/non-animals? KEJ (talk) 23:13, March 10, 2014 (UTC)