After discussing this a few times with concerned editors on Discord, I am now convinced that we should stop relying on archive.today, as we cannot trust it will be around in the long term; The creator himself had this to say on their blog: "Of course, it is doomed to die at any moment [...] The only idea is to hold back a little something that is doomed to die a little earlier.". In fact, we just cannot trust the service, period: it is privately owned by an anonymous individual (that might be from around eastern Europe, with server hosted in Russia, if some talk pages on Wikipedia are to be believed), and there is very little available information regarding financement and logistics of this service.
Hence why I am proposing we start migrating the archives we use on this service either to archive.org whenever available or directly to our screenshots collection (Wookieepedia:Social media screenshots and Wookieepedia:Website screenshots) for items that the Wayback Machine isn't capable of dealing with (Twitter, Instagram, etc.).
To help with this task, simply click on a one the subdomain link search in the table bellow, and either edit the concerned files and articles by finding a replacement archivedate on archive.org, or taking a screenshot and uploading it on Wookieepedia. Like with previous collaboration projects, I would advise participants to set small daily goals instead or trying to rush the mountain of links concerned, or they will just develop a burnout; slow and steady does the job.
NanoLuukeCloning Facility 13:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Subdomains
| Subdomains | Links (2024-11-27) |
|---|---|
| archive.is | 7,497 |
| archive.ph | 6,062 |
| archive.vn | 4,660 |
| archive.md | 347 |
| archive.fo | 207 |
| archive.li | 64 |
Discussion
With already a great number of files in Wookieepedia:Social media screenshots, I begin to feel we could organize the files somewhat better than just dumping them whenever we upload a new screenshot. How about at least providing subsections for people if they have more than two screenshots associated with them, and to order the file in chronological order (with a <!--date note--> like for indexing lists)? NanoLuukeCloning Facility 13:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally, if possible, we could consider dividing them into categories based on which platform it was from. Bonzane10
13:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Seconded. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 04:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tbh seeing that page organized into a table has long been a dream of mine. Imperators II(Talk) 09:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- So to resume:
==Social Media== (or do we include a "social media" column in the table?)
===Person===
| Date | Image (100px?200px?) | Description |
|---|
- Anything else? NanoLuukeCloning Facility 12:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pro table. Unsure if I want it split into multiple tables or one big table though. But I do want categories. Category:Images from Twitter and Category:Social media images of <PersonName>. With that last one maybe even split into stuff like Category:Twitter images of <Name> or something like that. NBDani
(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 15:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- After more consideration, I'm against tables splitting by person, as multiple creators can be involved in one screenshot. I support tables by platform though. NBDani (they/them)Yeager's Repairs 21:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- After more consideration, I'm against tables splitting by person, as multiple creators can be involved in one screenshot. I support tables by platform though. NBDani
- As discussed over Discord, we started implementing the table in Wookieepedia:Social media screenshots and also started moving files into Category:Screenshots of social media posts by platform and Category:Screenshots of social media posts by author. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 12:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, forgot to mention that, but after more discussion on Discord, we're likely to move to a archiveurl+archivefile model (if there is no archivedate). CT to come shortly (I got distracted by the TikTok "urgency"). NanoLuukeCloning Facility 20:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
