Forum:SH:"Public relations team" repeal and replace

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Forums > Senate Hall archive > SH:"Public relations team" repeal and replace

Hello,

I know the SH's been full of merges, but am proposing the creation of a new, short page. And one policy... or resolution(?) repeal.

TLDR:

  1. Repealing 2015 Mofference PR Team that was kinda sketchy
  2. Establishing a short SMT page
  3. All of the other minor tweaks that come with linking it

To Repeal

Here to drag some Wookieepedia history out of the abyss. So, things do stay on the books until they're formally repealed, technically, and thus I'd like to bring up something from a 2015 Mofference:

Wookieepedia Public Relations team officially commissioned by community, see meeting log for further details on membership and terms.

I encourage people to read the log of it, but the takeaways are:

  1. No publicly maintained log of members really with only a "private account" kept, with the initial members made known in the Mofference log. The members list at the time of creation was Cavalier One, Xd1358, Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing, Brandon Rhea, and Toprawa and Ralltir.
  2. Anyone who is part of said team has unilateral right to speak on Wookieepedia's entire behalf.
  3. There is no removal process (though it goes without saying that banned users aren't).
  4. Everything else is case-by-case.
  5. This was voted in specifically with the acknowledgment that it won't make its way to a policy page and it'll only be noted in the Mofference log. Which, essentially, makes it super hard to find and gave Tope a lot of power.

An early version of the Social Media Team, basically. Very interesting Mofference log, highly reccomend. With the way WP:A currently is, any admin can speak on Wookieepedia's behalf more or less, which seems fine enough to me and is the operating precedent anyway, since I'm sure most people forgot this exists. Maybe seems weird that we'd have to formally repeal it, but stays on the books until undone I guess.

To Replace With

So, we have Wookieepedia:Administrators and Wookieepedia:Rollback; it'd make sense to have Wookieepedia:Social Media Team too. Drafted a proposed page for such, and it's very simple—admin-boxes such as WP:A has so folk can introduce themselves and state what platforms they work on or what content they produce, list of accounts, a short list of some responsibilities that members can do (not exhaustive, just generally), and how joining the team and removing the team works.

The Social Media Team is now a voted in position, whereas it wasn't before, so it makes sense for it to have a short page same as every other position on the wiki. It's not overly long or dreary, but also is much more convenient than a small section on the Contact page with very little information. By also defining what the team is and what it does, it does provide a community baseline as well, as technically the Social Media Team can do pretty much whatever they want with no accountability at the moment. Not that we would, of course, but it's a policy loophole.

This would also result in a small tweak to Wookieepedia:Contact to limit duplicate information. The Social Media Team could then be efficiently linked on the privacy policy (which is due to pass in CT soon) and potentially have both Contact and Social Media Team pages linked in {{Adminnav}} to make them more accessible. The current SMT nav will likely be discontinued once both of those pages are merged in Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights per the recent CT on that.

One additional thing I'd like to have just codified in this CT is that the site's social media accounts should ideally be held on our official email for such, instead of one folk's individual emails. They were for years prior, and that account can now be safely assured as secure again; it's also been three years since the Upheavals, so that's been quite a long time. Access to the official email mailing list is managed by Grunny; it seems unnecessary to put on the page (instruction creep) but I'd like to have a sub-vote on it as a CT resolution anyway to be then instituted afterward.

Also, this doesn't conflict with any future version of the interview policy revamp, it only lists procuring interviews as one of the (optional, and potential) duties that a SMT may choose to perform.—spookywillowwtalk 14:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Some of this is dependent on the privacy policy and OOM's merging of the user rights pages passing. Should those fail, that'll be tweaked.—spookywillowwtalk 14:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Looks brilliant! OOM 224 (he/him) 14:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Good points all. Imperators II(Talk) 14:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
  • I do find it funny that all this time we've apparently had a secret-but-official "PR Team" that consists of only one active admin, and of the other four users listed, two are banned across all of Fandom. But yeah, uh good find Spooky and glad we're replacing this with formal SMT stuff Fan26 (Talk) 15:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Damn, am I glad we got rid of Mofferences... Full support on all of this. Sorry that the interview policy revamp is getting delayed, but it is coming (soonTM)! NanoLuukeCloning Facility 02:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Oh yeah, I remember when this was created. Get rid of it. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 02:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)