Forum:CT:Main page redesign

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Another vote may be necessary.–Sentry^Talk 04:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

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Note

We are currently going to be alternating between Main Page/sky and Main Page/water each week until a consensus is reached.

Note on current status

I used the random choice tag to implement automatic rotation of Sky and Water. More precisely, when a user visits the main page, they see either with 50% probability. Maybe we can keep it like that? - Sikon 17:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

• I have no objections to this. Maybe add Earth as well, just for variety (and to avoid having it sitting there doing nothing)? Maybe at a later date, we can have others design more themes, and if the community approves, they could be added to the rotation as well. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 17:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Round two

Since the previous vote established no clear consensus, I decided to make a few changes. Drafts 0 and 1 received no votes and have been eliminated. It seems that the layout has been decided, only the color scheme remains unclear.

Drafts 2 and 3, as well as the current main page, have been moved to Main Page/sky and Main Page/earth, respectively (sky and earth are just reference codenames). They use Main Page/uncolored via transclusion. This won't be the case for the final main page.

You can create a new color scheme that will hopefully attract more votes than these two and include it in this poll. To do this:

• create a page called "Main Page/your version" with its sole content being: {{:Main Page/uncolored}}
• copy to the appropriate subpage and edit Main Page/sky/monobook.css or Main Page/earth/monobook.css. These files contain color definitions. It should be easy to understand.

- Sikon [Talk] 14:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

• How come I see no change in color between the two? -- Riffsyphon1024 21:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Try reloading both of them. If it doesn't help, purge your cache. - Sikon [Talk] 03:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Second vote

Main Page/sky

1. SFH 19:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
2. Kuralyov 19:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
3. --MarcK talk 19:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
4. Commander Jake
5. RMF 21:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
6. Darthcraigious 02:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
7. MandalorianWarrior_talk 03:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
8. --Levenbreech Vor 11:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
9. Themelle444 15:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
10. Stake black 16:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
11. AdmiralKadann 17:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
12. VT-16 18:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
13. LandoSystem1138 12:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
14. CooperTFN 02:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
15. Masran Silvaris 13:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
16. – Aidje _talk 04:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC) Earth is also fairly good, but I must say that I find Water to be quite hideous.
17. Fenris447 15:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
18. Mindgiver 18:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
19. Lord Hydronium 06:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
20. Good for me. Water is not bad either. Fnlayson 15:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
21. Imp 18:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
22. Volemlock 19:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
23. I accidentally voted for the wrong one… –Sentry^Talk 00:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
24. Havac 02:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
25. Atarumaster88 ^{(Audience Chamber)} 15:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
26. Yoshi626 01:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
27. .... 21:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Main Page/earth

1. Though I still think that the quote/notice should be moved to the top. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 15:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
2. Adamwankenobi 16:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
3. Ozzel 18:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
4. Novajoe23 19:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
5. Thetoastman 23:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
6. Dude984 14:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Main Page/water

1. Like Breathes, I don't really care too much for the other two. I prefer bolder colors, and this is what I got when I played around with watery colors. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 06:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
2. Frozenphoenix32
3. MandalorianWarrior_talk 14:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
4. Palpy 15:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
5. Amina skywalker 20:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
6. TheDarkArchon 00:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC) - Definitely the most asthestically pleasing of the three. The semi-saturated colours work well here.
7. Nice, but something needs to be done about the black text on a blue background. 'Tis not pleasing to the eyes. Adamwankenobi 00:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
8. I actually like the dark blue best, though I'm at a loss about what to do to make the text on blue backgrounds more legible. —Silly Dan _(talk) 15:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
9. Shadowtrooper _talk 16:04, 14 April 2006 (UTC) It would be nice to lighten up the colors a bit, but I like this one nonetheless.
10. Breathesgelatin 19:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC) I definitely like the bolder colors of this scheme.
11. I think it's great, just as long as the movies are in italics, which is how it should be no matter what. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 19:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
12. I Like this one the best, though Earth's not bad either. SolusKad 22:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
13. Cull Tremayne 06:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
14. Darth Culator 20:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
15. Necropost. –Sentry^Talk 11:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
16. I like having a random skin each time I visit, but this is my favorite. --Xwing328^(Talk) 18:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
17. Cull Tremayne 20:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

No change

1. Jasca Ducato 18:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
2. The Erl of Forum ^{talk What I do} 20:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC) Ditto this. Not a strong one though, and I'll probably end up striking it out.
3. Dil 04:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
4. KFan II 13:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Sky and Water (randomized)

Earth, Sky, and Water (randomized)

1. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 04:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
2. Vote changed now that this option is here. —Xwing328^(Talk) 21:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Comments

• To be brutally honest, I'm not a huge fan of either of these color schemes. I may play around with myself soon, whenever I get a chance. Was there a specific reason that these aren't primary-colored schemes? - Breathesgelatin 02:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Aren't primary-colored? What do you mean? - Sikon [Talk] 03:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Both of them seem to have an immense gap in the Expanded Universe box. Is there anything we could do to fill that up, or do we just need to shorten the featured article and DYK boxes? --MarcK [[User talk:MarcK|[talk]]] 04:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I think we can always find what to fill that space with - for example, by expanding the navigation section. By the way, I like "water", but why are heading borders black? - Sikon [Talk] 09:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
      • "Water" doesn't look too great with black text on a blue background. Might I suggest yellow text on a black background? ;) Adamwankenobi 15:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
        • Personally, I think the current main page is fine: why did the issue of a revision come up?--Erl 20:04, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• I also like none of these options more than the current page. --SparqMan 20:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• The "water" option has a problem: the edit link on "did you know" is hard to find (unless, I suppose, you're an experienced user and you know it's there.) On the other hand, the colour scheme reminds me of the 2nd Ed. West End Games sourcebooks, which I like. —Silly Dan _(talk) 21:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Maybe it's good that it's hard to find - means less vandalism. - Sikon [Talk] 00:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
    • If vandalism becomes that problematic, we'd be better off semi-protecting the template. —Silly Dan _(talk) 02:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Can someone please tell me why we're even bothering to change the main-page, because if i'm honest; i don't like any of those. I like it as it is now. Jasca Ducato 09:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
        • Where were you during the first vote, where keeping the original main page was an option nobody voted for? - Sikon [Talk] 13:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
          • I was involved at the naming conventions track, although that's really not an excuse. I'm not violently opposed to any of the options, so if a consensus emerges I won't vote against it. But if more people show up asking why a change is being made, I think we should add that as an option.--The Erl of Forum ^{talk What I do} 15:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
            • Option added. —Silly Dan _(talk) 15:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
              • Family troubles meant i couldn't get to a computer at home and the site is blocked at school. Jasca Ducato 18:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For those that commented on the black text on blue background, I have changed it to white. I'm still trying to come up with a solution to the link color problem, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'm more than happy to listen. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 19:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Anyone else find the white text to be fuzzy? Or is it just that my monitor's too bright? —Silly Dan _(talk) 19:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

"Water" has a too bold colorscheme, like an 80s throwback. "Sickly green" ain't my cup of tea. :/ VT-16 14:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

• Actually, now that I think about it, both sky and water are good, just as long as the words that are supposed to be in italics are in italics. And I agree with VT-16 with his "sickly green" comment. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 14:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Uh, the primary scheme is blue, so I don't know why you are complaining about two boxes. Anyway, I will change it. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 19:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
    • We're voting on complete designs, so it makes perfect sense for him to be concerned about two boxes. I would agree, however, that the whole design is too bold. – Aidje _talk 19:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I have lightened "water" up a bit. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 19:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Upon reflection, I really don't care, it was just a comfort thing. Could we save the old design somewhere other than the history? EDIT: Did so on subpage User:Erl/Old main page. Sorry, I'm just kinda OCD about that sorta thing.--The Erl of the Forum ^{talk What I do} 00:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Is it just me, or are all the drafts the same now?--The Erl of the Forum ^{talk What I do} 02:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
        • It's not just you.. They look the same to me as well. The only difference I can see is that the Water one uses white text, other than that, they all look identical to me. MandalorianWarrior_talk 03:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
          • I was just noticing this too.... - Breathesgelatin 07:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
            • OK... so now it's either "sky" or "water." C'mon, let's end this... once and for all. ;) Adamwankenobi 22:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• Per Erl and MandolarinWarrior. I don't see much color distinction between sky and water, so I don't really care. Sky seems to have 10 more votes than water does so I think it could be ended now if the majority were concerned to end if the need was strong. —Mirlen 00:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Run off vote?

Since this old discussion has been resurrected for whatever reason, I suggest holding a runoff vote between Sky and Water, or barring that, how about adding Earth to the random rotation as well? StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 19:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry bout that, I resurrected the thread. I was busy archiving old CT discussions and I was reluctant to close this one because the topic was still relevant and because I noticed that a number of users (including myself) had not voted yet. –Sentry^Talk 01:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Old stuff

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