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The result of the debate was Support proposal. Imperators II(Talk) 08:33, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

As discussed most recently in this Senate Hall thread and previously here and here, I am proposing we add a new section to the bottom of Wookieepedia:Layout Guide to allow for the creation of optional index pages for all mainspace articles on Wookieepedia. These would live at the new Index namespace and would include a chronological list of all relevant media for the subject with page numbers and time stamps to aid readers and editors in finding references. Should there be clear support for this proposal, I'll submit a request for the Index namespace to be activated by Fandom about a week before the vote is due to end so that it's ready by the time the vote closes. If the vote then fails after this point, I'll have the namespace deactivated unless community discussion suggests otherwise. Ayrehead02 (talk) 01:29, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Here is the text I propose be added to the layout guide:

Index Page

Example: (from Index:Carib Diss) 

This is the index page for [[Carib Diss]].

==Media index==
*[[December 20]], [[2019]]:<ref name="Jedi Redeemed">{{InsiderCite|196|The Jedi Redeemed}}</ref> {{Film|IX}} {{1st}} – [[Disney+]]: 0.48.28-0.48.30; ''[[Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga]]'': Chapter 21. Babu Frik's Workshop, 00.48.38-00.48.40
*[[December 20]], [[2019]]:<ref name="TROS VD">{{Penguin|url=books/607902/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-the-visual-dictionary-by-pablo-hidalgo-foreword-by-chris-terrio|text=Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker The Visual Dictionary|archiveurl=https://archive.is/K380A}}</ref> ''[[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: The Visual Dictionary]]'' {{1stID|Carib Diss}} – p. 137
*[[March 17]], [[2020]]:<ref name="TROSExpanded">{{Penguin|url=books/609082/the-rise-of-skywalker-expanded-edition-star-wars-by-rae-carson/9780593128404|text=The Rise of Skywalker: Expanded Edition (Star Wars)|archiveurl=https://archive.is/OTPpx}}</ref> ''[[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: Expanded Edition]]'' {{Mo}} – p. 180
*[[March 19]], [[2020]]:<ref name="TROSExpanded" /> [[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: Expanded Edition (audiobook)|''Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: Expanded Edition'' audiobook]] {{Mo}} – 5:19:37
*[[March 31]], [[2020]]<ref name="Abrams">{{Abrams|url=product/art-of-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker_9781419740381|text=The Art of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Hardcover)|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20200409211534/https://www.abramsbooks.com/product/art-of-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker_9781419740381}}</ref> ''[[The Art of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]]'' – p. 124
*[[October 27]], [[2020]]:<ref name="Amazon">{{Amazon|com|gp/product/B08817NS6N|The Rise of Skywalker (Star Wars) (Screen Comix)|archivedate=20200622020526}}</ref> [[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Screen Comix)|''Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker'' Screen Comix]] – p. 131
*[[June 22]], [[2021]]:<ref name="TitanComics">{{TitanComics|m/76-star-wars-insider-203|Star Wars Insider #203|archivedate=20210613043823}}</ref> {{InsiderCite|203|Neal Scanlan: A Force Reawakended}} {{Po}} – p. 54
*[[August 3]], [[2021]]:<ref name="De Agostini">{{DeAgostini|url=libros-comics/enciclopedia-star-wars|text=Star Wars Encyclopedia|archiveurl=https://archive.is/Qhkeo}}</ref> {{EncyclopediaCite|Din Djarin and Other Bounty Hunters and Criminals}} – p. 71
*[[January 20]], [[2022]]:<ref name="Gameplay Overview">{{LEGOYoutube|video=kRHlJ3WwzDc|text=LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga - Gameplay Overview|archivedate=20220120151747}}</ref> {{LEGOYoutube|video=kRHlJ3WwzDc|text=LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga – Gameplay Overview|archivedate=20220120151747}} – 4:58-4:59
*[[April 5]], [[2022]]:<ref name="Gameplay Overview" /> ''[[LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga]]'' – Playable, Unlocked on [[Kef Bir]]

===Notes and references===
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Index pages]]

An index page is an optional subpage that can be created in the Index namespace as Index:PAGENAME for any mainspace article. The index page contains a single list of all media from the article's appearances and sources sections listed in chronological release order with release date. Material from the notes and references section or external links section may also be included if the material is directly related to the subject of the article, such as autobiographies or podcast interviews. If no release date is available at all this should be stated and the entry included at the end of the list. The date should be referenced, with a notes and references section at the bottom of the article. The media links should be formatted as in the three aforementioned lists including any media templates and include any additional information templates like {{1st}} or {{Po}}.

Separated from the media with an mdash; each entry in the list will then provide information to aid a reader in locating the information on the subject of the article in said piece of media, including page numbers, timestamps, or other locational aids depending on the type of media in question. A list of the formats for this information is suggested below, but the level of detail that a users adds is up to them: someone providing just chapters rather than page numbers is still more likely to help a future reader then adding nothing at all. Likewise, creating an index page does not require you to fill out every source, even if you can only add locational aids for a single piece of media this is still useful. Notes may also be included if necessary for unusual cases, for example, information no longer present on a still live webpage.

It is also important to note that as index pages are totally optional, they will not be considered during the nomination of status articles or for existing status articles. The only requirement for a status article regarding index pages is that if an index page does exist, it is linked to on the mainspace article, similar to the treatment of the {{Mediacat}} template. The link on the article should use the {{Indexpage}} template, which should be placed directly below the Appearances section heading. If no Appearances section exists, then it should be placed directly below the Sources heading, and if the article also lacks that then place it directly below the External Links section heading.

Index page media type formats

For any piece of media with multiple page ranges or time stamps, separate them with a comma. For any piece of media with multiple editions, separate those editions with a semi-colon. For any character appearing throughout the vast majority of the entire media simply "Throughout"

  • Film - For each differing edition or service give time range(s) using format provided in the media. Alternatively, scene selection chapters can be provided in place of time stamps for physical media (e.g., Disney+: 0.43.05-0.46.53, 1.45.20; Star Wars: The Complete Saga: Chapter 1; Chapter 12)
  • Audiobook - Timestamp or range. Alternatively, chapters may also be used, especially for frequently appearing characters.
  • Book - For each differing edition give page or page range (e.g., p. 23, pp. 50-53). If page numbers not given, count starting from first page after inside cover of the book. Alternatively, chapters can be used for frequently appearing (e.g., Chapters 2, 3-4, 6). For Encyclopedia style books with multiple entries per page, the specific entry may also be listed with the page number if necessary (e.g., ""Farns Monsbee" p. 124"). Note if information is hidden behind a moveable component of the book such as a pull tab or lift-able flap.
  • Comic - For each differing edition give page or page range (e.g., p. 23, pp. 50-53).
  • Board games and card games - List all relevant cards or other pieces as well as any page ranges in rulebooks (e.g., "Luke Skywalker" card; Game Piece, Rulebook pp. 30-31)
  • Video games - Commonly suggested aids include Codex or Database Entry, Level, Coordinates, or Location but given the variable nature of game design other relevant locational aids may be used as needed.
  • Webpages - Note timestamps for any relevant videos and slide or page numbers or names for any relevant subpages or embedded galleries and tables. (e.g. Story Gallery slides 8, 11, 13; Trivia Gallery slide 6)
  • Toys - Note if the subject is mentioned only on packaging or in an insert (e.g., Jedi Force File p. 3)

Support

  1. As proposer. Ayrehead02 (talk) 01:29, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  2. excited for this!! Dropbearemma LesbianRebellion (she/her) 01:37, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  3. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 01:39, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  4. —spookywillowwtalk 01:46, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  5. I'm going to enjoy this! NanoLuukeCloning Facility 02:37, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  6. (child Anakin voice) Now THIS is indexing! ℳÅℕ☉❂Ⅎ (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 02:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  7. CT-1742 Clone Army patch (talk) 06:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  8. SO excited HeadSpikesWalls (she/they) RainbowRebellion2 (talk!) 07:41, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  9. 01miki10 Open comlink 09:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  10. Can't wait to add this to random obscure pages when I feel like it I mean notable and important status articles of course! Rsand 30 (talk) 13:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  11. Imperators II(Talk) 14:38, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  12. Per Dani OOM 224 (he/him) 18:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  13. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 19:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  14. Oh this will be interesting --Vitus InfinitusTalk 19:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  15. Dentface (talk) 00:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  16. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 13:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  17. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 14:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  18. Fan26 (Talk) 03:14, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
  19. Lovely. Jarhead002 (talk) (he/him) 21:42, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
  20. The dawn of yet another new era for the Wook. These are going to be such incredible resources for our readers! Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 22:42, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
  21. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 23:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
  22. This sounds fantastic. RogueWhistler (talk) 01:15, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

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