The result of the debate was Support. —spookywillowwtalk 14:50, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Hey all, we're back again with another Discussions discussion—and this is the big one. The subject matter we'd like to put forth is the creation of a policy to codify the appointment of future Discussions moderators, as currently no such policy exists. The mod team has thought about this for a long time, and after literal years of mulling over it, I present such a policy today.
It's not complicated: current mods nominate new mods, basically, and then they'd be voted in just like most other user rights nominees are. There was just a lot to write for it, and I hope I've done it properly.
Contents
Background
As always, here's your dose of forum lore too. The current lineage of moderators was appointed directly by Fandom staff in 2019 following the original moderation team's removal a year prior. A year later, ArchieKE planned to retire, and the mods began a search for a replacement, which ended up being me.
I don't think all of this is recorded on the Wookieepedia article, so this helps both explain some history regarding mod appointments and serve as a first draft for some updates that article might need. I was one of five candidates whom the incumbent mods contacted over Discord to go over the selection process, and then staff promoted me when the mods made their choice.
The next two mods were appointed the same way. We scouted them, contacted them, and agreed internally that they were a good fit before asking the administration to promote them. Although we kept it fully internal to members of Wookieepedia, we still ran the process entirely off-site. Suffice to say this amendment was a long time in the making. Discord can't become a hurdle.
Hopefully you agree with these changes, which would keep the promotion of new moderators at the discretion of current moderators, but also open the process up to community approval and put it on public record. Special thanks go to my fellow moderators, Brandon Rhea, LucaRoR, and the Oxford comma for their original input on this motion so long ago.
Expanding Wookieepedia:Discussions
Before adding information about how new moderators would be promoted on the forum, there should probably be a bit more elaboration on the powers and responsibilities we mods have in the first place. As that definition is largely up to us, I've done my best to describe it below in what would replace the current Moderation section of the forum policy page.
The forum rules and guidelines are enforced by Discussions moderators, whose moderation rights are fully listed on Special:ListGroupRights. All administrators have Discussions moderation rights, as do Fandom staff and Global Discussions moderators, but Wookieepedia's Discussions moderators are the primary users expected to use their moderation tools to enforce site policies on the forum and serve the interests of the Wookieepedia community as active leaders.
Discussions Moderators
Responsibilities
While moderators have access to certain features and are therefore responsible for maintaining them via moderation rights, the wider Wookieepedia community is encouraged to request changes, such as reporting posts that may violate the forum rules; moderators should act on such suggestions as policies permit. The Ask A Mod A Question thread is the main way to contact moderators on the forum.
The main responsibilities of Discussions moderators are listed below.
- Lock, edit, delete, and/or undelete posts in accordance with the forum rules and guidelines.
- Modify the guidelines for important notices, links to useful posts, and general advice on best practices for forum users.
- Manage the local Special:DiscussionsAbuseFilter to moderate additional posts, such as preventing certain types of posts from being created.
- Refer accounts to the Wookieepedia administration for blocking in accordance with the Blocking policy.
- Nominate additional Discussions moderators for promotion in accordance with Requests for user rights, and announce the successful promotion of new moderators on the forum itself.
- Propose and vote on changes to forum-related policies on the Consensus track, and announce any such changes made to the rules or guidelines on the forum itself.
- Update the Discussions index as an official record of posts made on the forum.
Additionally, moderators automatically receive server moderator status ("Discussions Mods" role) on Wookieepedia's official Discord server and have the ability to kick and ban users in accordance with the server rules. They may also use the server's #announcements channel to relay announcements and major posts from the forum, such as Monday Morning Coffee posts.
Activity requirements
Moderators should meet a regular level of productivity. Those who are unable should place the {{Vacation}} template or a similar message at the top of their userpage.
A moderator who does not make use of their moderation tools at least once within a six-month span of their tenure is eligible for removal. However, the moderator must first be cautioned by another moderator or administrator if the requirements are not being met. They may explain their relative inactivity and provide an expected date for returning to the required activity levels. The moderator shall be warned about their activity levels if they fail to achieve the activity requirements by their specified date; demotion will occur if they fail to either provide or adhere to another explanation and expected date of return.
Also, if a moderator has not posted or used their moderation tools for four months, then attempts to communicate should be made, including a warning—which should be repeated at five months of absence—that they shall be demoted at six months of absence.
Moderator autonomy
In a similar principle adhered to by administrators, a moderator may not unilaterally overturn any moderation action by another moderator without a group consensus from the rest of the moderator team. The basis of this policy is that moderators are responsible for enforcing forum policies as a group, trusting each other with appropriately using their powers, such as locking and deleting posts, to keep the Discussions forum running as smoothly as possible.
As cleanup, the last sentence in the Guidelines section (starting with "Moderators may make minor adjustments to the Guidelines page") can be removed, as I've reincorporated this clause into the list of moderator responsibilities. The preceding sentence can then be changed for better wording: "They include tips on writing posts and links to important resource threads as added by moderators."
Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights provisions
This is the main component of what this policy would entail, codifying the precedent for how moderators have been appointed in the past with the addition of a formal vote to confirm them. Below are the contents of what would become the "Requests for Discussions Moderator" section of the page, placed below the "Requests for adminship" section or wherever may be judged to be the best spot.
Nominations must be made by a current Discussions moderator. The nominee will generally need to have expressed interest, after which the current moderators will offer guidance on skills development.
To view past requests, see the RFDM archive.
Requirements
There are some basic things to consider when nominating a fellow Wookieepedian for Discussions moderation rights.
- They have an account under a screenname.
- They have at least one year of contribution to the forum.
- They have demonstrated they are willing to take on additional responsibilities to make the community better.
- They have had some form of major forum contribution.
- They have dealings with other users on a regular basis in a fair, restrained, and constructive manner.
- They have demonstrated an understanding of the community's methods of operation.
- Registered users' votes must have a 2/3rds supermajority for the request to be accepted. Per the voting eligibility policy, this includes current Discussions moderators and any user who has made at least 200 posts in the last 6 months prior to the start of the vote.
- Additionally, the nominee may be asked a series of questions by users. While it is not required to answer them, it is strongly encouraged since it may affect how others decide and vote on the RFDM.
Wookieepedia:Requests for removal of user rights provisions
The provisions that would allow for active Discussions users and moderators to vote on the promotion of new moderators would likewise apply to any vote on the demotion of moderators who warrant removal. Originally I had written a sentence to be added to this page, but since larger amendments are currently being discussed for it, I'll bring up what I would've written over in that conversation to avoid disrupting it with this vote.
Wookieepedia:Voting eligibility policy provisions
Also helpful to note moderator appointment here as an example of a forum-relevant vote.
- For Consensus votes on policies affecting the site's Discord server or Discussions forum, such as the appointment of Discussions moderators via Requests for user rights, users may also vote if they are a Discussions moderator or have made at least 200 non-deleted posts on the site's Discussions forum within the previous 6 months prior to the start of the vote.
Support
- As proposer and a proud mod. Jedi Sarith LeKit (talk) 04:22, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yasen Nestorov (talk) 04:27, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Excellent. OOM 224 11:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- 01miki10 Open comlink 12:02, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Joupena (talk) 12:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- —spookywillowwtalk 14:05, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- NanoLuukeCloning Facility 17:35, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Bonzane10
17:59, 17 February 2025 (UTC) - Imperators II(Talk) 19:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Lewisr (talk) 01:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- NBDani
(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 15:10, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- ThrawnChiss7
Assembly Cupola 19:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, so much from my time as a mod is coming back to me. I'm very happy to see that this has been put forward and this has my full support. :) --Vitus InfinitusTalk 01:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)