Wookieepedia:Votes for deletion/Tatooine hand cart

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The result of the debate was delete - Sikon [Talk] 06:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC).

Tatooine hand cart

  • Unlike an unnamed powered vehicle like the Ugnaught bulldozer, this is most likely no different from any other hand cart. If it were a specific model of hand cart it would have in-universe notability, but there's no indication that it is. On the other hand, it is canon. -LtNOWIS 21:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Delete

  1. There's not much that can be said on a standard 2-handed cart. Even then, we don't have enough cannonical word to make a decent article out of it. -- TheDarkArchon 21:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  2. "If it were a specific model of hand cart it would have in-universe notability" - it would? =p CooperTFN 22:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  3. Delete. I would also prefer articles on "Senator of Taris's airspeeder", "Zayne Carrick's swoop" and other vehiclecruft one-liners deleted, but the majority seems to think otherwise. - Sikon [Talk] 08:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
  4. It's harmless, but it sets a dangerous precident. How long until we get articles for stuff like The 18332th hair in Qui-Gon's beard? Tam 08:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  5. Delete. Yes, it's canon, but there's nothing to be said about it that makes it a Star Wars article. We don't have articles on hands or feet, even though they're in Star Wars, because there's nothing to be said about them that gives them a specific Star Wars context. I think the same is to be said about this cart, which is basically just an earthly cart which everyone is already familiar with, with really nothing to be said about it other than that it exists. If it was a specific model of cart, or if it had repulsorlifts, or if we knew it was made from greel wood or hand-crafted by Sandpeople, or if there was something else to say, then it'd be article worthy, but . . . it's really just a cart. jSarek 10:35, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  6. Delete. It's canon, G-canon even, that hand carts exist on Tatooine. But like Tam indicated, it's also canon that Qui-Gon has a beard. It's canon that sand exists in the Star Wars universe. And clouds. And pants. You'll notice Wookieepedia lacks articles on those subjects. Red XIV 06:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
  7. DarthLumiya 20:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Err, it is G-canon. Just because its primitive, does that warrant its deletion? Should we delete Ewok catapults, hanggliders, and anything else without repulsors? we could just call it hand cart, but why delete it?JustinGann 21:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yeah I have to agree with Justin...there's no real need to delete it. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:43, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  3. My opinion is, if it exists in G-canon, it gets a page if someone feels like making one. Could stand to have a better picture though. —Darth Culator (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  4. Keep Are you guys insane? It's G-canon! You can't just delete that! It deserves it's own article. It should probably be renamed to Tatooine rickshaw, though. KEJ 13:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Comments

  • Why would vehicles get more precedence than, say, weapons? Are we going to keep everything that someone bothered to make? We don't have most lightsabers, even very important ones like Darth Maul's. Or other vehicles like Plo Koon's starfighter. -LtNOWIS 22:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Hey all! OK, obviously this really touches on a larger issue of differing opinions we've been having for a while, and I have a possible solution for your consideration:

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Hope it helps;) JustinGann 10:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • To KEJ: Like I said above, it's also G-canon that there's sand in the Star Wars universe. But if somebody made an article on sand, it would probably (and rightly) fall victim to a speedy-delete. Also, do you think we should also do an article for Luke Skywalker's toy T-16 Skyhopper? The the thing is every bit as G-canon as this hand cart. Red XIV 01:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I think your analogies are too weak to function as a valid argument. There are huge differences between Qui-Gon's beard/Luke's Skyhopper, which are individual instances of a category, and the hand cart (maybe the article should just be called hand cart or rickshaw) which is a model that is presumably commonly used on tatooine, and possibly all over the galaxy (and an instance of which appears right in front of our eyes in a real SW-movie by Lucas himself). You see the point? The rickshaw's a model or a category; Qui-Gon's beard and Luke's Skyhopper are non-salient instances of a model/category. There's a world of difference. Your sand-analogy is better, but still, I think it's not a valid argument, since sand does not serve any narrative function (in an OOU) persepctive, or any IU function for that matter. The rickshaw's obviously significant both IU and OOU. KEJ 19:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)