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The result of the debate was keep - Sikon [Talk] 08:04, 5 August 2006 (UTC).
I defy anyone who supports deleting the Karen Traviss one to claim that this one is remotely acceptable by any standard. The only difference is that Lucas could care less what we're up to. Moreover, I'd suggest that maybe quote pages centered around real people are a flawed concept; enough so, at least, to make them not worth the effort. CooperTFN 05:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Keep
- Kuralyov 05:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't get it. - Lord Hydronium 06:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Vermilion 07:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- QuentinGeorge 10:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- —Silly Dan (talk) 16:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- KEJ 20:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
23:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC) - SentryTalk 21:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Atarumaster88 19:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Delete
Comments
- Someone at LFL must be busy, sending their TFN staff over here to try and shape our policy. Kuralyov 05:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Cute. I'd just rather we not be hypocrites. CooperTFN 05:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- I voted to keep the other, and I'm voting to keep this one. I don't mind what we do, as long as there is a consistent policy. QuentinGeorge 10:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Cute. I'd just rather we not be hypocrites. CooperTFN 05:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- As long as the quotes are sourced, presented with sufficient context, and kept on-topic, I don't see the problem with listing a Star Wars writer's quotes. Nor do I see the problem with keeping this one (and Quote:Timothy Zahn, etc.) if we decide other quote lists are too likely to be overrun by fanfeuds to keep. —Silly Dan (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- The quotes are actually about Star Wars and they don't appear to be obviously biased. What is the problem with this one?–SentryTalk 21:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- They're both quotes that make him look silly and/or mistaken in retrospect, but I won't pretend that I really care. My real issue is that neither of them is really about anything, they're just mildly amusing asides, and that anyway, maybe the quotes page for the creator of Star Wars should be significantly more extensive and well-rounded, with serious quotes giving insight into his work. And just because we all agree that the Holiday Special sucks doesn't mean that the second quote doesn't convey a bias; in a thorough quote page it wouldn't be a problem (nor would the first one), but if the point of the page is to present fair and interesting (and relevant) information in his own words, should half that information be about the Holiday Special sucking? We should be thinking more about what the article should be and less on whether it's egregiously violatory. CooperTFN 03:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- So you think the quotes page should be more extensive, and the solution for that is...deleting it? - Lord Hydronium 03:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not really, no; I was attempting to make a point about the Karen Traviss one - that being, if it's worthy of deletion because of its problems, as at least 21 of us apparently think, the same should be true here. As WhiteBoy said: "If we can't have a respectable page, we shouldn't have one at all." CooperTFN 02:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- So you think the quotes page should be more extensive, and the solution for that is...deleting it? - Lord Hydronium 03:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- They're both quotes that make him look silly and/or mistaken in retrospect, but I won't pretend that I really care. My real issue is that neither of them is really about anything, they're just mildly amusing asides, and that anyway, maybe the quotes page for the creator of Star Wars should be significantly more extensive and well-rounded, with serious quotes giving insight into his work. And just because we all agree that the Holiday Special sucks doesn't mean that the second quote doesn't convey a bias; in a thorough quote page it wouldn't be a problem (nor would the first one), but if the point of the page is to present fair and interesting (and relevant) information in his own words, should half that information be about the Holiday Special sucking? We should be thinking more about what the article should be and less on whether it's egregiously violatory. CooperTFN 03:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- The quotes are actually about Star Wars and they don't appear to be obviously biased. What is the problem with this one?–SentryTalk 21:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm a tad new to this wiki (or any other wiki), but I consider myself an active contributor. I think it's entirely appropriate to have quote pages, provided they are written from a NPOV and they are expanded. The George Lucas one needs some serious help. And no, I don't care about Karen Traviss one way or the other. Atarumaster88 19:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)