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Unidentified veteran clone trooper

  • Nominated by: DFaceG (talk) 06:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: It's time to thank this fine veteran of the Clone Wars for his years of loyal service.
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Support

  1. ACvote Nice work. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. NanoLuukeCloning facility 23:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Fan26 (Talk) 20:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Commander Code-8 Hello There! 07:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
  5. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 06:47, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Object

NanoLuuke
  • Add author and publisher to Cite_web. Note that you miss-used publisher instead of work. Work is for the outlet (IGN), publisher is for the legal owner (Ziff Davis, LLC. per their copyright). NanoLuukeCloning facility 07:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Author is not specified on the page. Everything else fixed. DFaceG (talk) 23:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
      • Ah yes, they don't provide an author on videos, sorry to have mislead you. However, please remove the author parameter since it's not used, as we never left unused parameters in citation templates. NanoLuukeCloning facility 08:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Add the newly introduced date parameter to the twitter citation. NanoLuukeCloning facility 07:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Samonic
  • I'd like a mention of the CIS and the Republic being the two sides of the Clone Wars in the body and in the introduction.
  • Inconsistency: Intro "By 9 BBY, he had come to reside, homeless, on the planet of Daiyu," while the Body "At some point after the war, he resided, homeless, on the planet of Daiyu." The former is correct, the latter is not.
  • Inconsistency: Reference "Therefore, the events of "Part II" of Obi-Wan Kenobi must be set in 9 BBY. As such, the unidentified clone veteran's appearance must have also taken place in 9 BBY." while the Body "Around 9 BBY,[4] the clone begged Jedi Master in hiding Obi-Wan Kenobi—" Both should say in 9 BBY. Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 16:01, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
  • "and participated in the Clone Wars, against the Confederacy of Independent Systems as a clone trooper in the 501st Legion of the Galactic Republic's Grand Army of the Republic." is being sourced to the date note. The CIS vs. Republic part can't be sourced to the episode either, you can source it to Brotherhood, for example. Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 18:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • There is definitely not any room for the image in the bio.
    • I still disagree, it does not hinder the header nor does it extend below the text, leaving significant open space. DFaceG (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
      • Left you a message on Discord regarding this.
        • Adjusted per Discord. DFaceG (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
  • The date note does specify why Tipoca City's destruction relates to the trooper's birth.
    • Fixed what I assume the objection referred to, though I think you mistyped and said "does" instead of "does not," so I am unsure. DFaceG (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
  • The bit about the CIS doesn't feel intro-relevant.
    • I agree, but as it relates to an objection from another user I've gone ahead and prompted further discussion of this on Discord. DFaceG (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
      • I went to remove it from the intro but it seems someone else already has.DFaceG (talk) 01:31, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
  • You're currently sourcing that this trooper participated in the Clone Wars to Brotherhood.
    • I believe it would be fine sourced to the episode rather than the book, and I agree Brotherhood is likely not a suitable source. However, as it relates to an objection from another user I've gone ahead and prompted further discussion of this on Discord. DFaceG (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
      • Cited participation to the episode, and the fact the Clone Wars was against the CIS to Attack of the Clones.DFaceG (talk) 01:31, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
  • References go before em dashes.
  • Please avoid using the term "unidentified" for unnamed subjects in an IU setting (Kenobi date note).
  • I'm personally unconvinced that mentioning Leia is necessary/relevant to this article's subject.
    • It provides context for why Kenobi was present to interact with the trooper. DFaceG (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
      • I personally wouldn't add it, but I suppose it's not worth arguing over.
  • Asking for spare credits isn't a personality trait, it's just a thing he did.
    • The mention of this in the personality section is referential to his willingness to do so, not the fact that he did. DFaceG (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
      • The fact that he did it, as mentioned in the bio, shows that it's obvious he's willing to do it. I don't think repeating that info in the P+T adds anything to this article.
  • You should mention that Morrison plays all live-action clone troopers.
    • How is this relevant to this specific clone trooper? DFaceG (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
      • It might be read right now that Morrison was cast for this character just out of the blue, when he really was there because he had played clones in the past. There is ample precedent among TCW articles for this. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:32, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Avoid contractions seeing as this is formal writing (Bts).
  • While this is minor enough that I would normally do it myself, I'm noting it here so that you know for next time: the link to time should be removed from the bts for two reasons: 1) it refers to IU time, not OOU time, and 2) Morrison isn't referring to the passage of time, which the time article is; he's talking about an instance in which something happened.
  • (Review note) Here's my copy-edit with various minor fixes. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 04:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Looks good. DFaceG (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Editor
  • The databank says "the Empire's plan to replace clone soldiers with conscripted civilians has left some of the few survivors of the Grand Army of the Republic destitute." So we know he was replaced through Project War-Mantle and that should be reflected in the article. (also, by the way, you can source to a bad batch episode to get the name War-Mantle, and through that you can cite it was also included recruits. basically the corps were created by both conscripts and volunteers even thought the databank only lists conscripts. feel free to dm for more explanation if this doesn't make sense) Editoronthewiki (talk) 22:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
    • Added. DFaceG (talk) 02:25, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
  • You can work in that the 501st was elite in the same way it is included in Battle of Arantara Editoronthewiki (talk) 15:07, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
    • Added. DFaceG (talk) 01:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
CC-8
  • I'd like the Bts to establish that Morrison portrayed clones in the prequels and to mention that the armor was digitally created then, just to give more context for readers on why it was Morrison's first time wearing the armor Commander Code-8 Hello There! 04:41, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
    • Added. DFaceG (talk) 07:10, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
      • The films should be contextualized as part of the prequel trilogy, and it'd be preferable to use a Bts source to explain the CGI armor Commander Code-8 Hello There! 11:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
        • Fixed. DFaceG (talk) 01:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Anil
  • I believe the trooper's affiliation with the 501st looks like being sourced to Battlefront II in the Biography section.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi Part II Trivia Gallery on StarWars.com says the clone is "20 or so" years old chronologically.
  • Also the same article openly states he served in the 501st Clone Battalion, which would make the guide a better option to source that bit instead of the episode itself.
  • Again the same guide states that all previous clones were CGI in the movies, rendering it a better source to use instead of a media outlet or a defunct StarWars.com databank entry. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk)
    • All addressed. DFaceG (talk) 06:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 06:47, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


  • Is that really a scarf he's wearing? Feels more like a poncho (or poncho scarf, since it's seems to be a thing...). NanoLuukeCloning facility 07:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
    • I was unable to confidently discern precisely what it was he's wearing so I chose the option I was most confident in when adding this. DFaceG (talk) 07:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)