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Unidentified clone trooper (Kamino security)

  • Nominated by: Eddiebox28 (talk) 17:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Nomination number two for me. Let's see how it goes.
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Support

  1. ACvote Nice work! JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
  2. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 23:57, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
  3. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 12:27, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
  4. Fan26 (Talk) 21:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
  5. ACvote OOM 224 21:18, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Object

Erebus
  • The intro can be reduced a fair amount, since it provides more information than it should.
  • Currently, the two paragraphs in the History section are quite large. Could you please split them up, as well as provide a second image?
    • Done, for the first part. I'd like to upload an image taken from the Clone Wars Rewatch article but it's a screenshot they have taken from the episode. Would the source be the article or the episode? Eddiebox28 (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Context for Coruscant in History, please.
    • Done, I think? I'm assuming what I've done is what you meant, in which case does Kamino require it as well? Eddiebox28 (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  • There is currently a single duplicate link in the body. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 17:22, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  • The episode being part of the sixth season should be sourced to the episode guide instead, per a substantial amount of modern precedents. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 17:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • Article title should be at "Unidentified clone trooper officer" since there are no other canon pages competing for the namespace.
    • Actually, does the episode even call this character an "officer"? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 18:22, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
      • I've just double checked and no, not explicitly. However, in this case, it's clear he is a higher rank than ordinary clones: he has command over troops and is ordered to position them by superiors ("your men"); his armor and gear resemble those worn by other clone officers throughout the show. This is a slight assumption on our part but it's one backed up by a lot of evidence presented to us in the episode. I think referring to him as a standard trooper might be disingenous. Eddiebox28 (talk) 19:00, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
        • But he is a clone trooper, so that isn't inaccurate. We shouldn't extrapolate meaning based on appearance in this case. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:38, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
          • True. What should I move it to? "Unidentified clone trooper (Kamino security)" is apparently either invalid or taken (I'm assuming by a redirect since no such page exists). Eddiebox28 (talk) 20:53, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
            • It's a redirect. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
              • Forgot about the WLH tool! Useful little thing. So, can I flag the redirect for deletion? Or is there a different method used for deleting redirects? Eddiebox28 (talk) 16:15, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
                • Mark for deletion, but ensure that no mainspace pages are linking to it first. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 16:22, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
                  • Deletion is pending. Will move as soon as possible. Eddiebox28 (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • A link to a disambiguation page is also in order. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 18:20, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  • The air date needs another source. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 18:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Would the German source cited in the episode's article be acceptable? Eddiebox28 (talk) 23:55, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
      • Sure. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 10:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
        • Done. Looks a bit odd, but I've lifted it from other pages that use the reference where it also looks odd. Eddiebox28 (talk) 03:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
          • Modified the ref, please take a look. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
            • Excellent. Looks much better! Thanks! Eddiebox28 (talk) 01:02, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Dee voicing every clone in the series should either use another source or "series" should be changed to "episode." See Mixer. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
OOM
  • My edit
  • In the intro, context should be provided for Kamino, Tipoca City, and Coruscant (e.g. the planet Kamino)
  • "until a report from the Genetic Records Hall revealed the escapees' true intentions" — would be nice to tell readers their true intentions immediately after this line, and then link their actions to the next line, "The trooper and his superiors attempted to apprehend their targets in the hall but they avoided capture." Context should be given for Jango Fett as well. OOM 224 15:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Please see my copy-edit here, and feel free to ask me if you have any questions OOM 224 21:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • You're still in the officers category.
  • It's not immediately clear that Tup is CT-5385.
  • It should be specified that Cresh is a letter in Aurebesh.
  • Per Rys and other articles, it should be noted that Baker voiced this clone "like other clones in the series" or something in that manner.
  • (Review note) See my copy-edit for corrections on linking and comma usage. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 02:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the corrections! Eddiebox28 (talk) 21:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
  • It's not really clear why the confrontation is happening "secretly." JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
    • I've added a sentence in the Biography. Let me know what you think! Eddiebox28 (talk) 21:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure that sentence is fully relevant. The confrontation between Se and Fives and AZ seems to have nothing to do with Se's sketchy business. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 22:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
        • Gotcha. I've kept it brief and focused it more on the specifics of their convo. Eddiebox28 (talk) 19:27, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Vitus
  • I'd say it's suitable and reasonable to add in the personality and traits section of the article that this clone led other troopers, though it's best to avoid mentioning that he was an officer and such. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 02:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • I know it's already been reduced once, but the intro is still too large for an article this size. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 23:41, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
    • After looking at other good articles, I definitely agree! Done. Eddiebox28 (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments

  • I noticed Shayanomer's objection above regarding this trooper's officer standing, but wouldn't the quote "Station your men at every access point…" imply that this trooper is a commanding officer? --Vitus InfinitusTalk 22:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
    • It would mean that, yeah, but a commanding officer is generally synonymous with "leader in a military unit," so I woundn't take that to mean the clone necessarily held the rank of "officer." OOM 224 22:45, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Essentially, what OOM has said applies. I also think that he is heavily implied to be an officer due to the quote above and how he acts and looks in the episode he appears in. However, we have no concrete information that he holds the exact "officer" rank so it's safer to mark him as a trooper until we recieve new information. Eddiebox28 (talk) 20:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:18, 13 March 2022 (UTC)