Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Unidentified Naboo merchant

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Unidentified Naboo merchant

  • Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 11:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: "Shaken, not stirred"

(4 ACs/4 Users/8 Total)

Support

  1. Look, the father of Han Solo's twin brother apparently worked for his son's mother-in-law. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Bond. James Bond. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 17:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 23:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 17:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 19:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. ACvote I'll have a vodka martini… Graestan(Talk) 20:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. --Darth tom Imperial Emblem (Imperial Intelligence) 15:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Object

  1. Farl-objection: Under BtS, easter egg links to "in-universe easter eggs that happen to exist", not to the out-of-universe concept of easter egg that could explain the use you are giving to the expression. I expect you to change it, Mr. Gon. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Floyd:
    • One objection: "This may indicate that he might have lied and was in fact a criminal as Kenobi suspected." This is speculation. Cut this out. Good work. IFYLOFD (You will pay the price for your lack of vision!) 17:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
      • I think it is important to note that there is a possibility of him lying to Kenobi. Reworded to be less speculative, though. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Chack Attack:
    • "However, by giving Queen Amidala his stockpiled weapons the merchant proved that—at least partially—he had been telling the truth." The "at least partially" bit is speculation, and should be removed. I'd do it, but it seems unclear as to whether he actually is a legitimate citizen or not. Chack Jadson (Talk) 15:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
      • And it is really unclear. Upon his meeting with Kenobi, he claims that he is not a criminal and is affilated with the resistance. True, he later provides Amidala with weapons, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't a criminal in the first place. Hence the "at least partially" part. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 15:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Soresu
    • He later encountered a young Jedi called Obi-Wan Kenobi, who was on a mission to rescue the Naboo Queen Padmé Amidala. The merchant begged Kenobi to release him, and the Jedi did so. The merchant later. Later is repetitive. I suggest you change the first.
      • Addressed.
    • In future, remember that typing anything next to |hideb= will remove the biographical information section, and the same applies for the other sections, replacing the b with the first letter of the header. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 00:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Images
    • Need at least 2 image more to be good article! I'm also pretty sure that there is even more information about him that could be writed, mostly in "Behind the scenes".--Kreivi Wolter 22:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
      • No, it doesn't need two more images. Requirement 16 clearly states a Good Article nomination must "include a reasonable number of images of sufficient quality to illustrate the article, if said images are available." Nowhere does it say that a Good Article needs a minimum of two images plus the infobox image. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 22:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
        • Ummmm, okay, uuhhhh, I didn't exactly meant that, sorry, I know I phrased it unclearly. 2 images (or why not even 1) are(/is) needed to get my own, personal opinion to support this site to good. I have played the game and I know that there is at least 2 possible image that would expand the article. And there's also several dark side options in game, like killing him or leaving him in his fate, which should be placed on the "Behind the scenes".--Kreivi Wolter 22:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
          • "Personal opinion" doesn't cut it. If the nominator does not wish to add any more images, then he doesn't have to just because you want him to. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 23:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
            • Uummmmm, okay, I, uhhhhh, I just suggested how to expand the article.--Kreivi Wolter 23:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Toprawa:
    • Have you checked the game guide(s) for a mention/appearance? Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
      • Will the short version of the guide suffice? It appears to be the same as the one from the book, except not as comprehensive. And the guy's mentioned there, so he must be mentioned in the guide itself. I'm asking because I do not own the guide, and can't seem to find someone who does... QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 19:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
        • Disregard that. According to Jaymach, there is a brief mention. Added the guide to the "sources" section. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 09:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
    • The article claims that this man attempted to organize a resistance, but I'm not so sure we can verify this simply by what he says. You present this statement as fact simply based on what he tells Obi-Wan to get him to release him from prison: "He tried to organize a resistance but was captured by the Trade Federation." Unless I'm missing something that does verify this as fact (and I don't consider it good enough that he simply had a stockpile of weapons later in the game), it would be best to say something like, "According to the merchant, he tried to organize a resistance...," if you understand my meaning.
      • Fair enough. Added the "according to" part.
    • Also, you're missing some information that I find in the game guide. Apparently, after being released the merchant suggests Obi-Wan use the thermal detonator on a tank outside. Moreover, the game guide tells the player to "not follow his instructions...," but I see no mention of any of this in the article.
      • I've added his advice. However, the only reason not to use the detonator is because it won't do any good. You won't destroy the tank with it, maybe only damage it a bit. You'll still have to activate the energy shield and fight it with your lightsaber, so you'll pretty much just waste the detonator. And I don't know how to mention it in this article, since it'll sound a lot like game mechanics. BTW, while re-checking the game, I've found another small piece of info for the P&T, so you may want to review it again. Also, I've noticed that the guy doesn't "leave" as it was previously stated, he just moves to another spot near the prison, the same one where he later meets Amidala. Thus, I reworded the biography a bit. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
    • Finally, you refer to this character as a merchant, but I see nothing to suggest he is a merchant. The game guide only ever refers to him as a prisoner. Am I missing something? Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
      • He refers to himself as a merchant later in the game, when he meets Amidala. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 08:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. What do you mean by "the resistance"? It sounds like you mean "a resistance", since you don't link to another article or elaborate on it, but please check it. CC7567 (talk) 23:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Non-canon appearance
    • Although not happened in the "real" Star Wars, it should be noted in behind the scenes. Isn't it possible to kill him, or let him to rot in the prison?--Kreivi Wolter 16:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
      • The possibility of leaving him in prison has been already noted. Added the part about killing him, though. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)