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Tytan Latimer
- Nominated by: Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 12:56, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Semester is over so time to get back to some old projects.
- Date Archived: 11:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Final word count: 677 words (111 introduction, 417 body, 149 behind the scenes)
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Support
A nice Tala-adjacent nom.—spookywillowwtalk 03:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)- Lewisr (talk) 03:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC) - UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- GenralHux (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Object
ThrawnChiss
Star Wars: Dawn of Rebellion: The Visual Guide was published on November 2 in the UK, so you could either change from December 5 or just change to the general "2023".ThrawnChiss7 Assembly Cupola 13:57, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Fixed. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 17:22, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Anil
It might be a stretch, but do we know for sure that Latimer was Imperial Military, as Imperial uniforms are used by non-military branches as well? I'd say listing Imperial Officer Corps in the infobox instead would probably be safer.Latimer's gender is currently sourced to Part IV, but I can't find anything to confirm it in the episode, including the audio description, as we don't assume gender from appearance anymore. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Both changed. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 17:22, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Lew
The first pronouns usage for Tytan should be consistent between the infobox and bodyLewisr (talk) 17:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)- Fixed. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 17:22, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Uber
Just confirming that there is no information unique to the audio descriptions.- Nah, just stuff I felt I was able to imply visually and source easier.
You're missing a Mediacat.- When am I not… sorted. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 22:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Review note: Typically, we forego listing directors unless there's a special need i.e. extra BTS information. UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Ayrehead
Just before we see Latimer in Part IV the audio description describes two officers as wearing the darker uniform of non-commissioned officers, with one of them wearing a matching uniform to Latimer, so this information presumably applies to him as well.Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:09, 19 December 2023 (UTC)- Unsure how this applies to Latimer, we're talking about two different individuals there. As well as this, Lieutenant is generally considered a commissioned rank and we already have higher ranking officers wearing black (e.g. Elk). Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 10:26, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, it's an interesting one. To me, the audio description's wording: "Two Imperials dressed in the darker uniforms of non-comissioned officers," seems to suggest to me that the darker uniforms, atleast at this point in the timeline, all represent non-commissioned officers. The officer it's talking about also has four blue pips on their rank plaque which the Dawn of Rebellion Guide lists as security officer major and so they're presumably higher rank then Latimer anyway (Strangely, thee guide also lists three blue squares as representing captains among security officers rather than lieutenants). I'm not aware of anything in-universe that actually defines the uniform colors or commissioned/non-commissioned ranks, in which case there's nothing to technically contradict this information. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I get that there's nothing to contradict it, but I still don't think that saying someone's got a "black non-comm uniform" can be transitively used to say Latimer is also non-comm. Additionally, the time argument I don't think the time argument holds when we have officers with black uniform in 18 BBY as well (Rantu). I've removed the implication that he's an Imperial officer but I remain weary to make the non-commissioned assumption per my reasoning here and above. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 16:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Would you be happy making a note in the BTS that someone in the same scene with the same uniform is identified as such? Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:47, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- How does this look? Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 11:24, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Would you be happy making a note in the BTS that someone in the same scene with the same uniform is identified as such? Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:47, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- I get that there's nothing to contradict it, but I still don't think that saying someone's got a "black non-comm uniform" can be transitively used to say Latimer is also non-comm. Additionally, the time argument I don't think the time argument holds when we have officers with black uniform in 18 BBY as well (Rantu). I've removed the implication that he's an Imperial officer but I remain weary to make the non-commissioned assumption per my reasoning here and above. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 16:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, it's an interesting one. To me, the audio description's wording: "Two Imperials dressed in the darker uniforms of non-comissioned officers," seems to suggest to me that the darker uniforms, atleast at this point in the timeline, all represent non-commissioned officers. The officer it's talking about also has four blue pips on their rank plaque which the Dawn of Rebellion Guide lists as security officer major and so they're presumably higher rank then Latimer anyway (Strangely, thee guide also lists three blue squares as representing captains among security officers rather than lieutenants). I'm not aware of anything in-universe that actually defines the uniform colors or commissioned/non-commissioned ranks, in which case there's nothing to technically contradict this information. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Unsure how this applies to Latimer, we're talking about two different individuals there. As well as this, Lieutenant is generally considered a commissioned rank and we already have higher ranking officers wearing black (e.g. Elk). Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 10:26, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
The audio description also identifies the room he's in as the grand concourse.Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:19, 19 December 2023 (UTC)- That makes sense. Added. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 10:26, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments
- Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 11:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)