Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Transe Decar

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Transe Decar

(3 ACs/5 Users/8 Total)

Support

  1. Good work. 501st dogma(talk) 13:12, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I always liked this guy...--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:04, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
  3. P&T's are usually a little awkward with smaller characters. Watch your punctuation in quotes. Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 19:07, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Menkooroo (talk) 01:34, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
  5. One of these days i'll get around to playing Galactic Battlegrounds. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:56, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 12:30, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
  7. Did a copy-edit. Trak Nar Ramble on 05:13, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
  8. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:02, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Object

Politics
  • Could we get some context on the Death Star? Just saying it was a superweapon would do.
    • Done
  • In the bio at least you could mention the Galactic Civil War. That would give context as to what is happening between the two sides.
    • I've put it in the intro as well. Hope that's okay.
      • In the body, could you say who the war was between?
        • Done
  • "...using the weapon Colonel Veers had developed." Could you just mention it as the AT-AT?
    • Done
  • Although this is not an objection, were not AT-ATs used on Jabiim, in the Clone Wars? That would mean they already existed and did not need to be developed.
    • Here we have a major canon problem, since GB tried to say that AT-ATs were created just before Hoth, but some other games showed them much earlier in the war and then a few people used them in Clone Wars stuff. The best I can say is that Veers made some redesigns and reintroduced them to regular service at Zaloriis, but I didn't need to go into a huge amount of detail for this article so I've just said that Veers was working on the AT-AT.
  • "Decar's position however, was not important enough for him to the developement of the All Terrain Armored Transport that took place on Zaloriis, with Colonel Maximillian Veers being placed in charge instead, and it was likely he wasn't aware of its existence." This sentence doesn't seem to belong in the P&T. It does not really have anything to do with his personality or traits.
    • Removed. Think I got that info confused with another article I was working on.
  • Nice Barn Burner nom. 501st dogma(talk) 13:00, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
  • Perhaps, in the info box, put (formerly) beside Galactic Empire.
    • I guess that works.
  • "During the Galactic Civil War, a conflict between the Empire and the Alliance to Restore the Republic, three years after the Battle of Yavin, which saw the destruction of the Empire's planet-destroying superweapon, the Death Star by the Alliance, Decar decided to lead Zaloriis to defect to the Rebellion." This sentence is kinda awkward with all of the commas.
  • First paragraph of the bio is not sourced.
  • That's all. 501st dogma(talk) 19:31, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
Fred strikes
  • More just a suggestion, but the second sentence reads rather strange to me, especially in the second half.
    • Which second sentence? None of them seem that long to me. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:31, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
      • It was length. It was wording. I was just reading it wrong. Nevermind. :P
  • The last sentence of the bio is a run-on.
  • I made a few minor changes throughout the article. You'll need to check them and see what they are. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:04, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • I undid the change you did where you linked to the AT-AT in the bio, since it was already linked in that section, but the rest were good. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:31, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
      • Ah yes. Good work.
Exiled Jedi
  • Doesn't the Decar in-game sprite have a cloak, while the militiamen do not?
  • "Decar did wield a blaster, but was not seen using it at any points." While we may not have seen the weapn used in-game, I do not think that should be mentioned in the article body, since this incidates that no one ever saw him use the weapon, which we do not know to be true. I would simply say that Decar owned a blaster that he carried with him when he confronted Vader.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 17:26, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
Grunny
  • Quotes with only two speakers need to use the {{Quote}} template, not Dialogue, per the MoS.
  • From a quick glance at the article I noticed a few typos, please run a spellchecker over it to catch most of them. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 10:14, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • "but Decar was not placed in charge of it, the leader of the project instead being Colonel Maximilian Veers." — this reads a little awkwardly after the comma and could be worded better. Can you try rewording it to read more smoothly? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 23:58, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
Cav
  • Refering to Vader and the Empire's second in command doesn't seem quite right ... he's refered to more as the Emperor's enforcer, and has been seen to be subordinate to some high ranking officials such as Tarkin. Does the source explicitly state second in command? Also, if it is, then you need to settle on a styling for it - "second in command" or "second-in-command".
    • I've changed this to Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet, as I sort of assumed the second in command bit.
  • The attribution to the Biography quote is confusing. Vader is first speaker, then Decar, correct? But Vader appears to be introducing himself in the third person, unless he is talking over a comm or similar device. If that's the case, then a little explanation in the attribution may be needed.
    • Its likely Vader is on a comm or something, in the game he starts out near a shuttle and then the screen moves to Decar before Vader goes to where he is, but we don't have anything definte there.
  • Pipelinking All Terrain Armored Transport to the research project may not be the best course of action here, and an article for the project itself may be needed.
    • I've changed it so it actually says about the AT-AT, but I'm unsure about an article for the project
      • I think a case could be made for it. After all, it is a major reason for the Empire's interest in the planet.
        • I'm prepared to redlink it for the moment, but I'm not sure what title to use. Best I can come up with is "Developement of the All Terrain Armoured Transport", which just seems a bit too long. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 10:37, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Also, stating that the project was established by the Empire and not the natives is needed.
    • Done.
  • Did Vader go to Zaloris due to Decar's actions, or while searching for the Alliance fleet? Both are presented as reasons in the bio, but not in the intro.
    • Corrected
  • BTS quote: is there supposed to be a full stop at the end of the quote or not? Its current lacking one.
    • I manage to do that a lot. Fixed.
  • You categorise him in Category:Planetary leaders, but the bio doesn't reflect this, calling him a "minister" which implies he was only one member of a large whole. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 10:04, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Decar
  • At the end of the bio: "The Empire proceeded to destroy the Rebel Alliance uprising on Zaloriis using the All Terrain Armored Transport." I know what the sentence is trying to say, but it reads as if there's only one walker that they use --- do they use more than one? If so, can you pluralize?
    • Added an s.
  • Looks like he has brown hair in that image.
  • I think the BTS should source his appearance in Clone Campaigns to Clone Campaigns rather than to the original GB.
    • Done.
  • Some sort of Imperial-related category should be used.
    • Bureaucrat was the best I could find.
  • Good job. Check out my copy-edit for some examples of where I changed British to American English. I prefer the Queen's English too, but rules are rules. ;) Menkooroo (talk) 06:19, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • As a preliminary objection, the reference note for his year of death. After dealing with this stuff myself for Executor, I know there's no way you can definitively place his death in 3 ABY just because the battle provided intel that led to the Battle of Hoth. We know the Battle of Hoth took place very early in the year 3 ABY, so Decar's death could have just as easily taken place in late 2 ABY. The best we can do is narrow his death down to late 2 ABY to early 3 ABY. This should be revised in the infobox and article. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:17, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
  • Question on the BTS's mention of his name misspelling. Does the strategy guide refer to him literally as "Transe Decaar?"
    • As far as I know, the guide misspells his name. I personally don't have the strategy guide, but I checked the history and the info was added by Corellian Premier, who has previously told me he has the guide, so Im fairly certain that's what it says. Commander Code-8 G'day, mate 08:04, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
      • I just received confirmation that it does indeed spell his name like this. Since the strategy guide was released prior to the game, we can technically treat "Decaar" as his original canonical name, which was then changed to "Decar" per the game's new spelling. I tweaked the BTS a little to reflect this. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:02, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
  • I think you should mention his cloak in the P/T, not just restricting it to the BTS.S Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:26, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 03:02, February 7, 2013 (UTC)