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Stew (clone gunner)

  • Nominated by: AV-6R7Crew Pit 02:11, August 25, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Just like grandma used to make.

(3 ACs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Tasty. Imperators II(Talk) 04:05, August 25, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:55, September 3, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 20:29, September 5, 2016 (UTC)
  4. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:40, September 7, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Cwedin(talk) 07:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Supreme Emperor (talk) 04:42, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
  7. The Brave Goldfish (talk) 14:57, October 16, 2016 (EET)

Object

Imperators II
  • In the Bio quote, is it really not "Separatists"?
    • Fixed.
  • "when asked After two cadets had" - what is happening here?
    • Oops; that was a holdover from a previous version of the article where almost everything was combined into a single paragraph. Fixed.
  • You link to Boba Fett twice. Imperators II(Talk) 03:49, August 25, 2016 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • I feel the BTS should mention that it was Chee on Twitter who confirmed his name change. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:13, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:20, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
      • I'm confused, where does the name Stew actually come from? Is it in the episode or was it revealed by Chee on Twitter at the same time he revealed the old name? Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:26, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
        • Don't be; the original context to the Twitter quote was lost to time, which is why I intially left it out of the Bts. Stew is used in The Complete Season Two. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:37, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
          • Ok could you mention that in the bts? The reference for the name should maybe be Complete Season 2 instead of the tweet as well. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:25, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
            • I'll just update the ref to Season 2. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:32, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
              • I ultimately decided to cite both sources in the Bio and not try to make a claim where the name originated. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 06:12, September 3, 2016 (UTC)
  • It's definitely worth adding that the Endurance was destroyed shortly after this by Boba as it seems relevant to him even if we don't know what happens to him during it. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:13, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
  • Could you expand the intro by at least another sentence? Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:26, September 1, 2016 (UTC)
Cevan

There already exists a Legends page just called "skeet," so you'll either need to move "mechanical skeet" to "Skeet/Canon," or leave it as is and make a canon skeet page. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 21:27, September 3, 2016 (UTC)

SE
  • Regarding the issue of his name, could you re-add something to the bts about it? Maybe that he was initially confirmed to be Stew on twitter, with that name later being used in season 2? We should definitely have something about the origin in the bts. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:29, September 15, 2016 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I have some preliminary referencing concerns that I want to bring to your attention to make sure you're aware of this now for this article and in the future for any other clone articles you may write. Clone trooper articles prove to be especially difficult to reference because much of their bio and physical characteristics are coming from general clone trooper source information that just says "All clone troopers are this, this, and that." It seems like most of this article's referencing is clean, as I'm able to check myself from the Databank page, but I want to check to make sure Absolutely Everything You Need to Know actually asserts that all clone troopers are 80 kilograms and that you're not just extrapolating that from something.
    • AEYNtY established 80 kilos to be the average, yes. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:11, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • I'm sorry, the "average"? What does the source say exactly? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:16, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
        • 80kg (176ilbs): Average clone trooper weight. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:38, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
          • Ok, well, we don't know that Stew fit this average weight, do we? This is different from other sources saying all clone troopers were 1.83 meters tall, for example. The article should not assert this information. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:41, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
            • I'm not too sure I agree with your reasoning, but removed nonetheless. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:44, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
              • The source says the "average" weight of a clone trooper is 80kg. That means there are clones that weigh more and less than 80kg. That's what an average is. There's no source that tells us what Stew's weight is, so he could easily be more or less than 80kg. To assume that he or any clone is exactly 80 kg, then, is speculation. This is different than height, since the clones wouldn't grow taller or shorter than Jango's genetic makeup, which is precisely 1.83 meters. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:53, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
                • Thanks for explaining your reasoning. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:55, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
  • Multiple-speaker quote in the Bio requires the Dialogue template.
  • Speaking to my first objection point, the very first sentence of the Biography includes two adjectives not supported by the source material. That Databank page does not identify Kamino as an ocean planet nor describe Jango Fett as "infamous." If you choose to keep this wording in the article, these will need other citations, though I would recommend just cutting them, since they're ultimately extraneous to this article. Please handle these objections, and I'll continue with my review. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:37, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see the articles for these specific clone cadets pipelinked into this sentence; "After two cadets had failed to hit their targets..."
  • "as revenge for killing his 'father' during the Battle of Geonosis" cannot all be sourced to Attack of the Clones, which gives us no insight into Boba's motivation during the events of this TCW episode. Please adjust the referencing accordingly.
  • Here, too, I think it would be good to specify the name of the cadet in question: "When asked by a cadet..."
  • The bulk of the P/T section focuses on Stew's sense of humor, so why not use that as the section's quote? Whatever his line is about malfunctioning droids would be far more relevant than the current quote, which is really more applicable to Boba Fett.
    • In this case his line in literaly "Malfunctioning droids," so I'm not sure its worth replacing the current quote. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:21, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
      • Stew's line would obviously need to be presented along with Jax's in the context of that exchange between those two characters. The quote that's there now is virtually useless, if not entirely irrelevant to Stew's character, since it provides no insight into his personality, unlike the line about malfunctioning droids. Look at it this way: There's nothing to even add to the P/T that references the section's current quote, which should tell you that it's not the best choice. A quote should illustrate its section's contents -- in this case, there's only one that serves this purpose. You should replace the current quote with the "malfunctioning droids" exchange and modify the section to paraphrase that exchange rather than quoting it directly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:05, September 22, 2016 (UTC)
        • Sorry for the late fix; this objection was kind if buried. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 15:58, October 16, 2016 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see the Equipment section actually detail how Stew's armor is personalized, namely describing the artwork on his helmet
  • The Databank shouldn't be used as the sole reference for Stew wearing "a noise-insulated helmet and reinforced shoulder and chest armor," because that information doesn't come from there. At worst, this part of the article should utilize double reference notes, one from the TCW episode and one from the Databank, which has the effect of telling the reader that the information comes from TCW, while the Databank explains what this stuff is. For that matter, you should also employ double reference notes for the mention of his Phase I armor, since that name does not come from the TCW episode. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:53, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 09:16, October 29, 2016 (UTC)