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Silver Sea

  • Nominated by: VergenceScatter (talk) 22:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Fixed all the objections from the CAN
  • WookieeProject (optional): WP:NOVELS

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Support

  1. Nice work, apologies for the comment walls. Much love for anything Aftermath-related!—spookywillowwtalk 18:57, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
  2. Well done. Samonic Thrawns Chimaera (Talk) 16:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
  3. ACvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 03:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
  4. Nicely done! Sorry for taking so long to strike the objection. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 17:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
  5. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 20:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
  6. ACvote OOM 224 20:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Object

Spooky
  • Always a pleasure to see Aftermath noms. I've fixed a few, but I think it might be worth giving the article another once-over for both missing and duplicate links.
  • Given it's got limited mentions, I think some places the Sea is referenced could be added. For instance, when flying over the sea, Temmin notices that sensor arrays can be avoided by flying close to the water.
    • Both done.
  • In Description, it might suit better to mention how Velus' made a habit of frequenting the tavern in History, and perhaps Leia's office/apartment mentions as well. There seems to be precedent among the terrestrial location GAs to describe the structures and not the people occupying them (at the point in time they're mentioned).
    • Moved the tavern info to History. However, I don't really see a way to move the mention of Leia without leaving the office contextless.
      • A possible workaround might be something like, "Several buildings overlooked the Silver Sea during the New Republic Era, including an office, an apartment, and a tavern." On perusal, the precedent does seem to omit any character mentions in the section, given they aren't a physical trait of any said location.—spookywillowwtalk 05:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
        • I don't think that change is necessary. In my opinion there's no need to mention both locations twice; it makes the article less readable. Also, just saying that there is an apartment or office overlooking the sea doesn't make it clear that the apartment is connected to Leia. VergenceScatter (talk) 08:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
  • It might suit nicely to add that some context for the dating of the Battle of Jakku. Given it swaps sources from the rest of that paragraph, it's not immeadiately apparent that it's referring to near 5 ABY.
  • Some slight expansion on the tavern scene might suit, there's a few details about the sea there, and Velus wasn't there alone.
  • Context as seasons for winter and spring.—spookywillowwtalk 23:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
  • For Description, it's mentioned in Life Debt that the Silver Sea had a coast, which can then be paired with the details in Empire's End that said coast bordered the sea with a cliff, as the waves were crashing there.
    • Added
  • Given the length of the article expanding the intro slightly would suit nicely, perhaps briefly specifying which buildings have the view of said sea, a sentence about Rath Velus' affinity for the tavern, or maybe it's colors.
    • Added.
  • In the first paragraph of History, it seems a little repetitive to use the phrase "overlooking the Silver Sea" in back to back sentences, given that 'overlook' is also the same word from the book. Mind fiddling with one of the two?
    • Changed
  • "A tavern that overlooked the Silver Sea was frequented by Imperial defector Sinjir Rath Velus." - Didn't know how best to tweak, but a bit of time-context to this would be nice. It can be determined he did frequent the tavern prior to the visit with the crew, so perhaps an "At some point, Imperial defector Sinjir Rath Velus began frequenting a tavern overlooking the Silver Sea..." or whatnot, so that it's not spontaneously mentioned he's a regular.
    • How's that?
  • "Temmin flew close to the sea's surface to avoid sensor arrays, causing him to repeatedly crash his starfighter." a cursory observation - is every simulation confirmed to be over the Silver Sea? The way it's worded seems as if he repeatedly crashed due to said sensor array mistake, when, he did crash only once to that. Perhaps reword, to either remove repeatedly, or note that said scenario was one of a group of others that had failed.
    • Fixed.
  • If Chandrila is said to have a moon, wouldn't that warrant a page? Given it's also near to said mention, it can be specified thai 'his friends' were Norra Wexley's team.
    • Don't think it's notable, but created the page. VergenceScatter (talk) 08:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
  • "A tavern that overlooked the Silver Sea was frequented by Imperial defector Sinjir Rath Velus." - Didn't know how best to tweak, but a bit of time-context to this would be nice. It can be determined he did frequent the tavern prior to the visit with the crew, so perhaps an "At some point, Imperial defector Sinjir Rath Velus began frequenting a tavern overlooking the Silver Sea..." or whatnot, so that it's not spontaneously mentioned he's a regular.
    • You put this on here twice :P
  • The mentions regarding Leia's office & apartment are omitted from the History.
    • I avoided this intentionally. I believe it's repetitive to describe them in two spots and doesn't make sense to split up the information.
  • It would make sense if the intro and the History were consistent with the either full mention of flight simulator or the pipelinking of it as simulator - as both are different atm.—spookywillowwtalk 05:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • Please provide more context for the Aftermath and New Jedi Order novels as with the Legends page. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:17, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Luca
  • There is a duplicate reference in the second paragraph of the history section.
    • Done
  • Author for The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons? LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 15:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Don't really see the need to add all this info about Legends sources, but done. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:14, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Ecks
  • It's unnecessary to say a body of water has a coast; that's a defining property for any body of water. The last Description sentence should be rewritten to get rid of this redundant wording (but it's perfectly fine to say that part of the coast featured cliffs, of course). 1358 (Talk) 15:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
    • I initially added in response to Spooky's objection, but you're right that it isn't really necessary. Removed. VergenceScatter (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 20:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)