- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
Quarren warrior
- Nominated by: --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 18:41, July 1, 2018 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I recently added numerous paragraphs focusing on characteristics, history, and more, however, I would not be able to have a strong reason to nominate if it wasn't for some very helpful users.
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- Apologies for the abrupt end to my objections --Lewisr (talk) 06:42, August 1, 2018 (UTC)
- Good? Hell, this article should go to featured. Good job! Yo.-User:Fan26 (Talk) 15:43, August 1, 2018 (UTC)
- --Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:14, August 8, 2018 (UTC)
Object
Lewsir
You're definitely going to need to expand upon their role in the invasion of Mon Cala. --Lewisr (talk) 14:11, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh all right. I expanded, noting all the Quarren that appeared. Should I mention all the battles, or something along the lines of that, too? Thanks for looking over the article! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 14:22, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
- There are several Quarren dead at the start of issue 14 as Vader and co make their way to the palace, you should mention they fought in the Battle of Dac City. I'd suggest having another check through in case you missed anything else
- Are you sure they're dead? I took a look and can find one saying, "Forward!," but see nothing about their deaths. --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:46, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Yes they're dead, see here and here --Lewisr (talk) 02:51, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Okay I added them in. --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:06, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I still think you need to expand upon the event, giving some more context into what's happening. You also should swap around the part with Telvar negotiating and the two Quarren dying in the battle because the battle doesn't start until Telvar is killed --Lewisr (talk) 01:36, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
- How does it look now? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:23, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I still think you need to expand upon the event, giving some more context into what's happening. You also should swap around the part with Telvar negotiating and the two Quarren dying in the battle because the battle doesn't start until Telvar is killed --Lewisr (talk) 01:36, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Okay I added them in. --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:06, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Yes they're dead, see here and here --Lewisr (talk) 02:51, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Are you sure they're dead? I took a look and can find one saying, "Forward!," but see nothing about their deaths. --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:46, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- There are several Quarren dead at the start of issue 14 as Vader and co make their way to the palace, you should mention they fought in the Battle of Dac City. I'd suggest having another check through in case you missed anything else
- Why did you put sometime later and then shortly before this, surely it would be better to swap them around and then just say shortly after this? I'd add that the tidal wave was created by Unidentified sea creatures unleashed by Lee-Char. --Lewisr (talk) 15:21, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed. Apologies for my taking time to respond. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 05:25, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem its all good! Mostly happy with what you've put, if you're going to mention about Lee-Char being influenced by a Jedi, you should name the Jedi and why he was influencing Lee-Char--Lewisr (talk) 16:51, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
- Done. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:19, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem its all good! Mostly happy with what you've put, if you're going to mention about Lee-Char being influenced by a Jedi, you should name the Jedi and why he was influencing Lee-Char--Lewisr (talk) 16:51, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed. Apologies for my taking time to respond. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 05:25, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
References shouldn't really go in the intro, I'd suggest trying to work it somewhere in the main body--Lewisr (talk) 02:41, July 21, 2018 (UTC)- How's this? --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
You'll need to source how you got the 18 BBY date--Lewisr (talk) 02:41, July 21, 2018 (UTC)- Apologies, but I can't find any articles that have a good source for that. Any tips/links for where to look? --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Well we know from issue 13 it takes place one year into the reign of the Empire. Star Wars: Galactic Atlas dates the establishment of the Empire to 19 BBY. That should help you write a note --Lewisr (talk) 03:05, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry again, but I have yet to see a note written sourcing a date that isn't a simple form of the TCW date template. Could you please link me to an example so I can go from there? --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:09, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You can't source 18 BBY to a TCW date template, that's why I say you need to write a note that says how you got to that year --Lewisr (talk) 03:16, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You misunderstand. I mean exactly that. I'm requesting a link to an article that has one of these notes, but doesn't use the TCW template, if possible. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:26, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Apologies, look at reference 2 on Nik Hepho --Lewisr (talk) 03:30, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem. Does the note look fine? Should I mention how exactly it is known that the comics take place one year after the Empire's formation? And if so, is it mentioned in the first comic? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:53, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Yes you'll need to add how we know it has been one year since the Empire's formation, and yes issue 13 does mention it has been one year --Lewisr (talk) 03:54, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Should I change "book" to "comic," or leave it? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:58, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You should change it to Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith 13 seens as that's the comic that actually says it. I'd write something like 'Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith 13 establishes it has been one year since the Empire's formation, therefore it can deduced the Battle of Dac City occurred in 18 BBY'. Also in the first part you can add a pipelink for Proclamation of the New Order for where you say formation --Lewisr (talk) 10:23, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- All right I replaced the source with the basis of what you said, albeit with slight rewording. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 19:02, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You should change it to Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith 13 seens as that's the comic that actually says it. I'd write something like 'Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith 13 establishes it has been one year since the Empire's formation, therefore it can deduced the Battle of Dac City occurred in 18 BBY'. Also in the first part you can add a pipelink for Proclamation of the New Order for where you say formation --Lewisr (talk) 10:23, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Should I change "book" to "comic," or leave it? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:58, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Yes you'll need to add how we know it has been one year since the Empire's formation, and yes issue 13 does mention it has been one year --Lewisr (talk) 03:54, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem. Does the note look fine? Should I mention how exactly it is known that the comics take place one year after the Empire's formation? And if so, is it mentioned in the first comic? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:53, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Apologies, look at reference 2 on Nik Hepho --Lewisr (talk) 03:30, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You misunderstand. I mean exactly that. I'm requesting a link to an article that has one of these notes, but doesn't use the TCW template, if possible. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:26, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You can't source 18 BBY to a TCW date template, that's why I say you need to write a note that says how you got to that year --Lewisr (talk) 03:16, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry again, but I have yet to see a note written sourcing a date that isn't a simple form of the TCW date template. Could you please link me to an example so I can go from there? --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 03:09, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Well we know from issue 13 it takes place one year into the reign of the Empire. Star Wars: Galactic Atlas dates the establishment of the Empire to 19 BBY. That should help you write a note --Lewisr (talk) 03:05, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Apologies, but I can't find any articles that have a good source for that. Any tips/links for where to look? --Belugan Jedi/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Made a slight adjustment but its all good. --Lewisr (talk) 19:48, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Great! --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 19:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
I think you should change the image of Lee-Char's coronation to something of the Quarren from the Vader series- I was debating that, but the coronation image really shows how the Quarren and Mon Calamari were united. In addition to that, the Quarren never really got the spotlight in the Vader series. They were almost always in the background, except for a few images including two in a submarine and two in a cave. I don't think either would be fit to replace the coronation image. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 19:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- There's an image in issue 16 of the Quarren fighting alongside the Mon Calamari against stormtroopers. That could probably go in there, you'll have to put the stuff about the occupation of Mon Cala in a separate section anyway as it shouldn't really go under the Battle for Mon Cala city section --Lewisr (talk) 20:24, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I found it, but the Quarren there aren't very detailed at all, so I would rather have the Quarren Warriors hiding out in a cave image. What do you think? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 21:32, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I think it would still be okay to add, as its still relevant to the section. But I'll leave it down to you for which one you use. Sorry just realised that you'd responded to it --Lewisr (talk) 16:59, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem! Though if I was to add your image preference into the article, I believe it would take away the focus of the Quarren warriors, so I'd rather add the one where two are very detailed and featured prominently. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:46, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I can't really see through this objection through as I'm not really gonna be able to make any edits for a while. Just gonna strike it and leave it upto you or another reviewer to pick up again if necessary. Apologies! --Lewisr (talk) 06:42, August 1, 2018 (UTC)
- No worries! Appreciate you supporting the nomination! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 15:41, August 1, 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I can't really see through this objection through as I'm not really gonna be able to make any edits for a while. Just gonna strike it and leave it upto you or another reviewer to pick up again if necessary. Apologies! --Lewisr (talk) 06:42, August 1, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem! Though if I was to add your image preference into the article, I believe it would take away the focus of the Quarren warriors, so I'd rather add the one where two are very detailed and featured prominently. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:46, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
- I think it would still be okay to add, as its still relevant to the section. But I'll leave it down to you for which one you use. Sorry just realised that you'd responded to it --Lewisr (talk) 16:59, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
- I found it, but the Quarren there aren't very detailed at all, so I would rather have the Quarren Warriors hiding out in a cave image. What do you think? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 21:32, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- There's an image in issue 16 of the Quarren fighting alongside the Mon Calamari against stormtroopers. That could probably go in there, you'll have to put the stuff about the occupation of Mon Cala in a separate section anyway as it shouldn't really go under the Battle for Mon Cala city section --Lewisr (talk) 20:24, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I was debating that, but the coronation image really shows how the Quarren and Mon Calamari were united. In addition to that, the Quarren never really got the spotlight in the Vader series. They were almost always in the background, except for a few images including two in a submarine and two in a cave. I don't think either would be fit to replace the coronation image. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 19:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
Make sure yo go through and add all possible links--Lewisr (talk) 19:48, July 21, 2018 (UTC)- Did you find something in particular? Or just reminding me in case? Either way I'll take a look. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 19:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- It was more in general --Lewisr (talk) 20:24, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Okay I looked through but couldn't find anything. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 21:32, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You can move the Quarren link from the history section to the characteristics section, you can link things like Jedi commander/Jedi genera/king of Mon Cala/assassin/clothing/armor etc --Lewisr (talk) 21:42, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh wow I missed those. I linked all suggestions as well as several more. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 22:02, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You've got some duplicate links which should be removed, on your toolbar you should have an option to see duplicate links. You really ought to have a thorough look through, senator/aqua droids/prison/prisoner and much more can be linked --Lewisr (talk) 22:10, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are calling the "toolbar." At the bottom of my screen there is a toolbar, though it does not have an option to see duplicate links. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 23:38, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Try looking in customize on that bar --Lewisr (talk) 23:41, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Still can't find it, but I'll look for the duplicate links. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 00:40, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Try looking in customize on that bar --Lewisr (talk) 23:41, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are calling the "toolbar." At the bottom of my screen there is a toolbar, though it does not have an option to see duplicate links. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 23:38, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You've got some duplicate links which should be removed, on your toolbar you should have an option to see duplicate links. You really ought to have a thorough look through, senator/aqua droids/prison/prisoner and much more can be linked --Lewisr (talk) 22:10, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh wow I missed those. I linked all suggestions as well as several more. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 22:02, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- You can move the Quarren link from the history section to the characteristics section, you can link things like Jedi commander/Jedi genera/king of Mon Cala/assassin/clothing/armor etc --Lewisr (talk) 21:42, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Okay I looked through but couldn't find anything. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 21:32, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- It was more in general --Lewisr (talk) 20:24, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- Mon Calamari monarchy in the intro, Quarren Isolation League in the 1st paragraph of history, Ambassador and Mon Calamari in the paragraph about the occupation of Mon Cala --Lewisr (talk) 00:54, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Lol edit conflict, but anyway, thanks for the help! How does everything look now? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:01, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Soldier in the intro, Count Dooku, Trident-class assault ship, there's still many more haha. I will have a go through tomorrow to see if I can find any you may have still missed at that point --Lewisr (talk) 01:14, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed all three. I'll take a break from reviewing the article for today, except to fix any more errors anyone spots. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:08, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- No worries, sorry to continually bombard you with new things to link, as I said I will take a look through tomorrow and link anything I spot --Lewisr (talk) 02:10, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh no problem. I just can't believe I missed so much. You must be really good at this stuff, huh? :} --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:12, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Its easy to miss at first so I understand. Haha yeah I guess I can spot those kinda things :) --Lewisr (talk) 02:14, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed. :} --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 04:52, July 23, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh wow! Thanks for all that rewording/linking lol. Sorry for the bother. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:34, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Its easy to miss at first so I understand. Haha yeah I guess I can spot those kinda things :) --Lewisr (talk) 02:14, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh no problem. I just can't believe I missed so much. You must be really good at this stuff, huh? :} --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:12, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- No worries, sorry to continually bombard you with new things to link, as I said I will take a look through tomorrow and link anything I spot --Lewisr (talk) 02:10, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed all three. I'll take a break from reviewing the article for today, except to fix any more errors anyone spots. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 02:08, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Soldier in the intro, Count Dooku, Trident-class assault ship, there's still many more haha. I will have a go through tomorrow to see if I can find any you may have still missed at that point --Lewisr (talk) 01:14, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Lol edit conflict, but anyway, thanks for the help! How does everything look now? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:01, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Did you find something in particular? Or just reminding me in case? Either way I'll take a look. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 19:57, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
You should add in the BTS where they were first identified--Lewisr (talk) 01:36, July 26, 2018 (UTC)- Done. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:53, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
'After numerous clashes with the Empire, the entire Mon Cala force was finally crushed' That isn't strictly true because several ships (Raddus' ship had Quarren aboard) escaped the Imperial blockade after Lee-Char surrendered. You should take a look at issue 17 again and rewrite that section--Lewisr (talk) 15:21, July 26, 2018 (UTC)- I changed "entire" to "majority," and added the bits you suggested. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 05:25, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
Vitus
Make sure that all images are from canon sources, [[File:QuarrenSoldier-TCWUK627.jpg]] is from a Legends source.- Okay, I replaced the image. --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:37, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
Are there any other quotes that can be attributed to a Quarren Warrior? I can think of at least one from Water War. Maybe there's also something in the Star Wars: Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith comics?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 00:19, July 8, 2018 (UTC)- Well from the comics, the Empire refers to the combined force of Mon Calamari and Quarren on multiple occasions, but I don't really think those would make good quotes. I can think of an insulting quote from Riff Tamson about the Quarren. I can also think of a Quarren Warrior confirming that Nossor Ri and the Quarren were with Lee-Char. Anything else that might make a good quote? --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:37, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
- In Water War I believe Nossor Ri gives orders to some Quarren Warriors, perhaps that could work?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:37, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
- Okay. I added that quote just before the paragraphs that discuss the battle. --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 18:05, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
- In Water War I believe Nossor Ri gives orders to some Quarren Warriors, perhaps that could work?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:37, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
- Well from the comics, the Empire refers to the combined force of Mon Calamari and Quarren on multiple occasions, but I don't really think those would make good quotes. I can think of an insulting quote from Riff Tamson about the Quarren. I can also think of a Quarren Warrior confirming that Nossor Ri and the Quarren were with Lee-Char. Anything else that might make a good quote? --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur (Wanna Discuss Something?) 01:37, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
Comments
Vote to remove nomination (AC only)
Article is 1117 words, by my count (GAN Rule 15). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:54, August 9, 2018 (UTC)- Exiled Jedi (talk) 22:56, August 9, 2018 (UTC)
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