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Odis
- Nominated by: OLIOSTER (talk) 09:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: The Refugee Sector is just full of poor slobs.
(4 ACs/1 Users/5 Total)
Support
- Kilson 05:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 00:30, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
I wish Windows7 let me play KOTOR :(—Tommy 9281 Sunday, April 10, 2011, 14:03 UTC
Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:36, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
1358 (Talk) 19:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Object
Return of the PIE
In the infobox, you label the Republic affiliation as formerly, but not the Refugee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he no longer a refugee after he was hired?The first sentence of the Bio is a bit long. Could you separate them?- Other than those two, good job. Kilson 03:30, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
Moffship
I've noticed that we're rather inconsistent regarding the use of "Refugee (Nar Shaddaa)" as an affiliation in the infobox. Several articles, such as this one, use the full link; others merely display it as "Refugee," while one doesn't list it at all. Seeing as "Refugee (Nar Shaddaa)" is a conjectural name, perhaps it would be better to move that article to "Nar Shaddaa Refugees," since they appear to be a loosely-organized group, and list it as such in the affiliation field of the individual refugees' infoboxes.Also, is it really appropriate to list a ship as an affiliation? Perhaps "Crew of the Lunar Shadow" would be better.Some minor context is needed on the Lunar Shadow in the intro and bio. Something like "starship" would suffice, but I'll leave that up to you."...and was hoping the Exile would hire him on." On what?Some context is also needed for the Jekk'Jekk Tarr in the bio. (As a note, I removed the mention of the Jekk'Jekk Tarr from the intro because it was irrelevant to Odis.)- I'll give it another review later. Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 18:23, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 19:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Tm_T advised me on which outcome to consider canon. If anyone takes issue with this, please discuss it here. OLIOSTER (talk) 09:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, from what your info in the Bts leads me to believe, the Prima Guide says that Odis was hired by Fassa. Even though the quest you currently have gives light side points, which is Wookieepedia policy to choose the lightside quests, the Prima Guide is an official Star Wars source. An official Star Wars source outweighs this site's policy. I would recommend changing the article to the Fassa scenario, although I would also recommend getting a few more opinions, especially from an AC. Kilson 00:39, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
- I do agree with that, but Tm_T's argument was compelling as well, so I'm just not sure. I've asked Toprawa to look it over. OLIOSTER (talk) 02:19, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure there's any definitive answer here, but I think it's best to go with what makes the most sense. As a general rule, we do follow light side options and outcomes as fully canon, even over secondary sources. Though I don't place any certain authority in this at all, and really have no idea where these come from, our Canon page includes the following comments: In side-choosing games such as the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series and Dark Forces saga where the player has the choice between light side and dark side, as of yet, the light side ending has been verified as canonical by Lucasfilm in all games. and also Wookieepedia articles assume that the player picks the light side choice for all scenarios; therefore, even the secondary choices and events pertaining to the dark side or triggered by relevant choices, are considered non-canon. Since the non-Hutt scenario is specifically identified as being a light-side option and the strategy guide isn't, it's my opinion that it's probably best to just stick with that, while noting the alternatively suggested outcome in the BTS, as is currently done. I don't consider myself an authority on KOTOR at all, but that's my interpretation of it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:42, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
- After reading Tope's comment, I think I agree with him. It's probably best to keep the article as is. Sorry for confusing you Olio. Kilson 03:16, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure there's any definitive answer here, but I think it's best to go with what makes the most sense. As a general rule, we do follow light side options and outcomes as fully canon, even over secondary sources. Though I don't place any certain authority in this at all, and really have no idea where these come from, our Canon page includes the following comments: In side-choosing games such as the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series and Dark Forces saga where the player has the choice between light side and dark side, as of yet, the light side ending has been verified as canonical by Lucasfilm in all games. and also Wookieepedia articles assume that the player picks the light side choice for all scenarios; therefore, even the secondary choices and events pertaining to the dark side or triggered by relevant choices, are considered non-canon. Since the non-Hutt scenario is specifically identified as being a light-side option and the strategy guide isn't, it's my opinion that it's probably best to just stick with that, while noting the alternatively suggested outcome in the BTS, as is currently done. I don't consider myself an authority on KOTOR at all, but that's my interpretation of it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:42, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
- I do agree with that, but Tm_T's argument was compelling as well, so I'm just not sure. I've asked Toprawa to look it over. OLIOSTER (talk) 02:19, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, from what your info in the Bts leads me to believe, the Prima Guide says that Odis was hired by Fassa. Even though the quest you currently have gives light side points, which is Wookieepedia policy to choose the lightside quests, the Prima Guide is an official Star Wars source. An official Star Wars source outweighs this site's policy. I would recommend changing the article to the Fassa scenario, although I would also recommend getting a few more opinions, especially from an AC. Kilson 00:39, April 2, 2011 (UTC)