Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Nossor Ri/Legends

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Nossor Ri/Legends

• Nominated by: --Boot Lover ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 03:52, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: I have been working on the article, and feel it is now ready for nomination. I will try my best to correct any mistakes found.

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

Support

1. --Lewisr (talk) 06:34, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Lewis

• Star Wars: Galactic Atlas is a canon source and therefore can't be used on a legends page, you're going to need to use a legends source for the date.
  • Okay, could you please help me a little with that and give a suggestion? --Boot Lover ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 04:01, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • Looking at pages relevant to Nossor Ri would be a good place to start, once you see what sources they use that should help you come up with something --Lewisr (talk) 04:11, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
      • Unfortunately, none of the Legends articles I found sourced that particular time. I visited Riff Tamson's, Lee-Char's, Gial Ackbar's, Kit Fisto's, and Yos Kolina's. For Yos Kolina, there was The Official Star Wars Fact File (2014) linked as a source, but I don't know much about that. --Boot Lover ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 04:23, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
        • Try looking at this, there's a note which will be of some use but you'll probably need to adjust it sightly --Lewisr (talk) 18:41, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
          • Oh all right. I replaced the Galactic Atlas source, though I didn't need to change anything. Thanks! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 19:25, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
• You should go through the article and make sure you add as many links as possible, many are missing.
  • Ah all right. I linked what I could find that had an article. --Boot Lover ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 04:01, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • I'd suggest going through again, you missed things like death, envoy etc--Lewisr (talk) 14:47, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
      • Okay, I linked everything I could find that had an article. Thanks! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 15:20, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
        • You missed Death/Legends on the very first line. You can add King of Mon Cala/Legends somewhere or at least pipe link it where you mention king. There's also a few repeated links which you'll need to remove. Basically you should have a thorough read trough and make sure everything is linked once and everything that can possibly be linked is linked --Lewisr (talk) 15:46, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
          • Okay, done. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 17:09, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
• You need to add a behind the scenes section. --Lewisr (talk) 04:00, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
  • Okay I did that. Let me know if I should expand/if there's more information to be added. Thanks for taking the time to read through the article! --Boot Lover ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 04:01, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • No problem! --Lewisr (talk) 04:11, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
      • :} --Boot Lover ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 04:29, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
• Is the stuff in the BTS about the unfinished arc returning to Mon Cala on the Star Wars: The Clone Wars – The Lost Missions DVD? I don't own it so just making sure --Lewisr (talk) 14:47, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
  • I don't own it either. Though that is what they linked to on this article for that particular paragraph.
    • You shouldn't rely on what other pages say, they could be wrong for all we know. You should verify for yourself that its on there, but as you don't own a copy you'll probably have to ask around, it seems User:Cwedin, User:Toprawa and Ralltiir, User:Alexrd and User:DarthRuiz30 own a copy so maybe you should ask one of them if they could help you out. --Lewisr (talk) 15:47, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
      • Aye okay. Fortunately, DarthRuiz30 was able to help me by confirming that there was no mention of the Mon Cala arc with the set, and it's likely Nossor Ri being murdered was pure speculation. I've updated the Bts section with what we know from the Clone Wars panel and the blog. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 17:09, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
        • If there's no specific mention of Ri appearing then it doesn't need to be on his page so you should take it out --Lewisr (talk) 19:55, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
          • All right. --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 20:00, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
            • Well, it turns out the information does exist, after all. https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:DarthRuiz30

I've added it back. --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 19:02, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

• 'All the happenings were machinations by Count Dooku and Riff Tamson to bring the planet to the Separatist side of the conflict.' To the Separatist side of what conflict? --Lewisr (talk) 04:02, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • Fixed to link to the Clone Wars. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 04:58, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • Please add context on what the Clone Wars is. Why did Dooku want Mon Cala to be on their side? --Lewisr (talk) 19:00, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
      • Okay. I added the information, but after rereading your question, I would like to know if there's a particular article I can look at to find out why exactly the Separatists wanted the planet. Was it because of a valuable source? Or slavery? Or did they just attempt to capture as many planets as possible? --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 19:38, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
        • It was more of a if there was anything in the episode that answered it, but probably isn't necessary to add --Lewisr (talk) 01:41, July 6, 2018 (UTC)
          • I don't believe so, because I recently watched the three episodes, and I don't recall anything related to a particular reason. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 17:37, July 6, 2018 (UTC)
• Any quotes you can add? --Lewisr (talk) 02:45, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • How's the article look now? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 03:45, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
    • Last one wasn't necessary but nice work! --Lewisr (talk) 03:47, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
      • Thank you! --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 03:59, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Tommy

• Redirects?
  • Finished correcting them. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 16:35, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • Again, redirects. Tommy Macaroni 12:13, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
      • I checked through the entire article and could not find one. Am I missing something? --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 19:16, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
        • Ref 7. Tommy Macaroni 19:23, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
          • Fixed. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 20:00, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
• Please look at this. The article needs personality and traits and equipment sections.
  • All right, I finished adding those two sections. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 16:35, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • Sources? Tommy Macaroni 18:39, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
      • I can't believe I forget them. Done adding them! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 19:25, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
• BtS needs his first appearance, what year that was released, where his name came from etc. Tommy Macaroni 08:16, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
  • Okay, I added the date the episode was released and sourced it, but is there a good place to look to find where his name came from? Thanks for looking over the article! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 16:35, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • I don't know what ref 7 is doing. What about first mentioned? As for the identification, that was just a suggestion as it may be the first mentioned or first appearance, but this is your nomination, so really you shouldn't be unable to search for the relevant source yourself. Just look through the sources and appearances on the article, see which were released first and which use his name. Tommy Macaroni 18:39, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
      • Oh okay! I added ref 7 because the article documents when the season first premiered, which is the episode Ri first appeared in. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 19:25, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
        • The first part of the BTS can be sourced to water war, and you only need to state the year. Currently, the BTS info and the sources section contradict themselves. Please rectify. Tommy Macaroni 15:09, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
          • All right I sourced the first paragraph to Water War, and I removed the phrase about him first being mentioned in Water War's episode guide. Thanks! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 15:20, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
            • I didn't want you to remove the text about the first mention, I wanted you to correct the sentence so the BTS and and sources sections are aligned on where Ri was first mentioned. Tommy Macaroni 15:11, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
              • Oh. Well, the BTS section currently states that he first appeared in Water War, as does the sources section. The sources section also mentions that he was first identified in Water War. --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 17:34, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
                • How can he be first mentioned in one thing and first identified in something else?Either one of them is wrong or one of them needs to be changed (perhaps to (Indirect mention only) or one of his names was first identified). Either way, I want you to check both sources of information to resolve this. Tommy Macaroni 19:00, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
                  • Done; I completely missed that. Good catch. --White-Helmeted Mandalorian/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 03:20, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Spooky

• You're in Category:Pages with missing permanent archival links currently, which needs to be resolved.
  • I believe I archived everything, but it still has the article in that category. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 14:01, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
    • It's because the {{SW}} template in reference 4 is still missing an archive, could you fix that? —spookywilloww^talk
      • I believe so. I added the archive of the episodes in chronological order list, but it still shows the category. Did I do something wrong? Thanks! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 15:20, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
      • It's still because of reference 4, the one that cites 'About 21 BBY,' in the first paragraph of the biography - the {{SW}} template is still missing an archive link. That should be all, you almost got them all c: —spookywilloww^talk
        • Thank you, but I still don't understand, as I've looked it over numerous times and it seems sourced. But the category's still there. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 03:42, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
        • It was reference four as I said, the SW template within the TCW date imput was missing the archive link, but I've added it for you. —spookywilloww^talk 01:36, July 6, 2018 (UTC)
          • I know, I just couldn't find a way to fix it. I don't see your edit in the article history, but the category is not present anymore. Might I ask how you were able to do it, for the future? Thanks for helping me with this! --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 17:37, July 6, 2018 (UTC)
• This image that's used on the page is also missing an archive link.
  • All right. I fixed it. --Boot Lover/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 14:01, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
• The majority of the information in the character template is infobox-only, but needs to be incorporated into the article.—spookywilloww^talk 01:01, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
  • Good catch! I added it to the "Personality and traits" section. Thanks for looking through the article!

Comments

• Hi! I'm just stopping by to let you know that you're missing a source in the Appearances: The_Clone_Wars:_Warriors_of_the_Deep. I believe it's a 100% straight adaptation. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 20:47, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
  • All right! Thanks for notifying me! I added it! --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 20:50, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
    • Looks like Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Ackbar's Underwater Army also links to Nossor's page so that should be added too --Lewisr (talk) 21:35, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
      • Sure thing. Added! --Nikto Enforcer/Riverdale Chauffeur ^{(Wanna Discuss Something?)} 22:13, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

1. Article is 1198 words long, by my count (GAN Rule 15). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:51, August 9, 2018 (UTC)
2. Exiled Jedi (talk) 22:53, August 9, 2018 (UTC)
3. Imperators II^(Talk) 09:09, August 10, 2018 (UTC)