Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Morley

The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a Good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Morley

• Nominated by: Sicaptain (talk) 11:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:
• WookieeProject (optional): WP:TCW

(0 ACs/1 Users/1 Total)

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Support

1. Samonic 12:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Object

Samonic

• Nice job and welcome to the GAN! :) (Review note)
• Species go before gender.
• Context for the Clone Wars.
• Fire should link to fire :P Samonic 12:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
  • What do you mean with Context? Sicaptain (talk) 12:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
• Remove all current references from the second bio paragraph and add a Brothers reference at the paragraph's end.
• Sourcing issues:
  • You're sourcing the first sentence of the biography's first paragraph to the date reference, instead of the Brothers reference.
  • The episode guide does not support anything it is sourced to.
• Behind the scenes:
  • Add release date for Brothers and Revival.
  • Connect the second sentence to Morley, please.
  • First sentences cannot be sourced to the episode guide, as the source does not support anything stated. Samonic 17:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Should all be done. Sicaptain (talk) 19:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Erebus is back

• When mentioning characters more than once, we refrain from using their first name, only when they don't have a last name. There is one in the article.
• You are currently using ref 2 consecutively in the body. It should only be used once, ending at 20 BBY in the first paragraph.
• Clone Wars context is not necessary in the intro.
• Did Savage throw Morley onto the fire in anger? I seem to remember that he choked him for betraying him, but just threw him onto the fire.
• Morley's name should be mentioned in Skills and abilities.
• The BTS needs to include the full release date for Brothers, as well as episode number, season number and that it's a TCW episode. However, it is irrelevant to mention that he appeared in Revival in a flashback. That is from a time long gone. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 17:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
  • It could be argued that Opress made a grim face while he threw Morley into the fire, but i couldn't find a better wording than "in anger". Sicaptain (talk) 18:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Except for the "throwing in anger" thing, all should be done. Sicaptain (talk) 19:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
      • I would just remove it, then. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 02:40, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
        • Done.Sicaptain (talk) 17:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Braha

• (Preliminaries) The class Terrapin should be italicised.
• For chronology purposes, you should introduce Morley finding Maul, Maul being his master and him feeding Maul before you get to Savage arriving.
• Bouncing off the objection above, I think it's also worth contextualising how Maul ended up there.
  • This is the ideal set up for the chronology. If Morley found Maul before Savage came, then that should be mentioned beforehand. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 09:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
• Savage and Maul's context should mention they're Dathomirian and Force-sensitive, so that later elements don't confuse the reader.
• Context for Fire-Breathers?
• "While Opress slashed through most of the native scavengers," Linking lightsaber to slashed isn't enough to say that Savage used a lightsaber on them, you should actually state it.
  • Watch out for capitalization. The episode has fire-breathers as lowercase, and it appears to be Morley's nickname for refuse incinerator droid as well. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 09:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
• "Morley then claimed to have spotted a horned man like Opress, which made Opress follow the snake-like alien." I would recommend referring to Opress in a different variation in the second instance. Additionally, Morley actually said he heard stories about a horn man. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 20:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Regarding your second and third objection, do we have a canon source for that? I know there is some legends stuff but i don't know of any canon sources.
    • Ok, for these two, I feel like there should be some context for Morley working with Maul. In the episode, he states he found Maul and it's established that he brought Maul victims as food and got the leftovers. I think that should at least be the context. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 08:31, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
      • Done. Sicaptain (talk) 22:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
  • For the fourth one, why is it important that they are force-sensitive? I don't know of any point in the episode where that is important.Sicaptain (talk) 17:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Looking back at this one, I not as fussed about it, but I would still like to see something about Maul being a fallen Sith apprentice or something. The Phantom Menace is an easy reference for that. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 08:31, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
      • Done. Sicaptain (talk) 22:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
  • On a final note, be mindful with tense as well. "Says" is present tense. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 09:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
• (Part two: The biography) I think the bio in general is lacking in details after watching the episode myself. I think you should include the parts when:
  • Morley greets Savage only to be stamped on and choked, followed by their conversation.
    • Morley introducing himself and the "payment" part are worth mentioning as well.
  • Morley's offer is rejected, but he follows Savage and warns him.
  • He brings up the fire-breathers, and Savage is forced to follow him to safety.
    • "and Opress had to follow the Anacondan to get to safety" that's roughly how it goes, but Morley also advised him to follow.
  • Morley warning Savage about the junkers before the fight actually occurs.
    • I think there should be a bit more detail than just "Morley was not keen".
  • Morley didn't just 'then' claim he knew of someone looking like Savage. That conversation should be detailed better too.
  • Morley advising Savage to take shelter before the latter spots one.
  • Morley pretending to be surprised by the state of that shelter with the bodies.
    • You should also mention Morley's trap at that point rather than when he actually betrays Savage to set up the context for this trap.
  • Savage believing he had been betrayed, leading to him step into Morley's trap.
    • This part should be detailed a bit more.
  • Savage's final questioning of Morley before he kills him. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 14:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Coverage of Morley's responses would be beneficial here. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 20:29, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Done. Sicaptain (talk) 12:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
      • See my copy-edits (here and here) and make sure you're fine with them. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 20:29, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

1. Objections have been unaddressed for over a month. The user was given notice of this and an additional week to fix them, which is now up. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 04:01, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
2. Feel free to renominate when you're ready. OOM 224 09:22, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
3. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)