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Matchstick

  • Nominated by:--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 16:41, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A cleaned-up clone

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  1. Grammar issues still remain, to say the very least. I also hoped you've checked all sources for information. CC7567 (talk) 17:21, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
    • Well I don't know what all of the sources are. I did recheck my sources.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 17:57, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
      • If you don't know what sources there might be, you can ask someone who is more familiar with TCW sources. You're missing at least the Star Wars: The Clone Wars – The Official Episode Guide: Season 1, and you'd do well to check it for info. CC7567 (talk) 18:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
        • Okay I took a look and what I saw really didn't help but than again it wasn't a full, hard copy. I added it as a source.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 19:57, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
          • For sources, be sure to double check the episode guide and its commentary, the TCW TCG cards, both visual guides, and possibly you can take a look within the The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. I also do believe that Matchstick appeared briefly within the Wii game Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels, which I also have and can catch for you. JangFett (Talk) 20:34, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
            • Okay well I don't have any of those books or that game so that could be a problem JangFett. I'll work with what I have. Oh yeah, what is the TCW TCG? I haven't seen anything pertaining to that.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 20:42, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
              • The Clone Wars Campaign Guide. I still recommend that you either get your hands on an actual copy of The Official Episode Guide or contact someone that does because that's the only way to confirm that there isn't any info missing. CC7567 (talk) 22:01, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
                • In the Star Wars PocketModel TCG article, you'll see two links that say "Clone Wars" and "Clone Wars Tactics". Both are TCW-related, and should have something about Matchstick. To see each individual card, you can refer to this website: [1]. And yes, I'll check Lightsaber Duels for you. JangFett (Talk) 12:21, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
                  • Okay, I checked and the closest I could find was Matchsticks Y-wing which was of no help. Thank you for your help. I greatly appreciate it! Oh and CC, I checked a shelf copy of that book and I don't think I am missing anything.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 03:00, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Attack of the Clone
    • Please continue to check your grammar. This should be the issue of least concern in all nominations.
    • I would recommend to read all other clone FA and GAs to see if you're missing anything.
    • "due to the breaking of procedure": what "breaking of procedure"?
      • This still remains. I'm striking all other objections and will review them later once other reviewers are finished. CC7567 (talk) 22:00, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
    • How is Grievous at all related to the Malevolence?
    • Please make sure that every single detail in the article is directly relevant to Matchstick and shorten or remove whatever is not.
      • You told me in my last GANom that I had to have backround info.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 22:19, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
        • That does not mean simply summarizing the comic. If you need help on this one, I recommend reading any of the current character GAs. CC7567 (talk) 22:24, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
          • I looked at a very similar article (one that you worked too) and it follows what I did.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 23:58, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
            • Is anyone out there? Nobody has made a move for a while.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 21:40, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
    • The Neebray did not "inhabit" the nebula.
    • "During this, Matchstick's fighter was damaged but he downplayed the damage across Koon, as the mantas did not cause any casualties apart from an astromech droid." Please check your grammar and somehow rephrase this to correctly use English idoms.
    • Check your linking for both overlinking and lack thereof.
    • I'm almost certain that you can use more quotes in this article.
    • More to come. CC7567 (talk) 03:12, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
      • I can not find "due to breaking of procedure" in this article. I advise that you look at the article name first. What are the Neebray doing there if they are not inhabiting the nebula? Grievous was the commander of the Malevolence at that time.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 03:33, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
        • Please look more closely (and look exactly what you should be searching for) instead of assuming that I'm reading the wrong article. Also, if I'm asking a question in an objection, that means that it's unclear in the article, not that it's a factual question. You should therefore be clarifying it in the article instead of replying to me with the answer here. For the Neebray issue, you can find the answer by rewatching the episode; it's stated quite clearly there. CC7567 (talk) 03:52, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
          • There. I believe I have fixed your problems. Also, in my last GANom attempt, you said that I needed to provide backround information and to write the article for a reader who only knew the 6 movies and their canon. I am simply following your teaching.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 21:44, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Fett
    • In the infobox, "Rise of the Empire era" should not be sourced to the clone troopers databank entry, but rather the TCW novel instead. I corrected this, but please be aware of this.
    • As for the rest of the infobox sourcing, you need to go back and make sure everything is properly sourced. I am seeing certain information in the infobox that should not be sourced to the clone troopers db entry. The only correct sourcing I see so far is the era, homeworld, and and death listings.
    • "During the Balmorra Run, Matchstick's bomber was damaged by a Neebray manta" During the Balmorra Run? That isn't factually correct. The Balmorra Run was a hyperspace lane (TCW created canon), and not a type of "run" (i.e Kessel Run). You may say the group took the hyperspace lane as a shortcut to out run the Malevolence, but in your own words of course. Also, the Balmorra Run also goes into the Kaliida Nebula.
    • There is a huge time gap between "During the Balmorra Run.." and the previous sentence. You fail to mention about Skywalker's plan (the meeting onboard the Resolute) or any relevant information regarding it. Right now, it sounds like the group took the new Y-Wing bombers and set off to join something called the "Balmorra Run". Please correct this.
    • "After coming out of the Kaliida Nebula, Shadow Squadron engaged the Malevolence and their Vulture droids." Whose Vulture droids? By saying "their" is the Malevolence a group or a warship? Quite confusing for the reader.
    • "When the massive warship fired its ion cannon on the squadron, Matchstick's bomber's engines failed and he collided with fellow pilot Tag's Y-wing, killing both pilots and their gunners." So his starfighter was "destroyed" because of the ion ray? No, the ion ray cannot destroy an enemy starfighter, but disable it. You fail to mention about Skywalker's order to fly over the edge of the ray. And while Matchstick was doing so, his engines failed, due to the damage and stress it was enduring. The damage was caused by that Neebray.
    • In the intro, context on Grievous.
    • That's it for now. Please go back and correct these intro issues. Also, here's a tip to addressing objections: please make comments below each objection. It's quite easier for the objector to make comments and see what's done and not. JangFett (Talk) 01:59, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
      • "After taking the bombers to Skywalker's flagship, the Venator-class Star Destroyer Resolute, Matchstick and Shadow Squadron were briefed by Skywalker and Admiral Wulff Yularen, the commander of the Resolute. Skywalker explained the plan of destroying the bridge tower of the Malevolence with the bombers in order to kill Confederate General Grievous, the commander of the Malevolence. Shortly thereafter, Yularen reported that Grievous had attacked a Republic medical convoy at Ryndellia. Since Ryndellia was near the Mid Rim planet of Naboo, and that Grievous had previously attacked a medical convoy, Skywalker concluded that Grievous' next attack was the Kaliida Shoals Medical Center. This facility contained over 60,000 injured clone troopers. Departing from the Resolute Master Plo Koon and Shadow Squadron followed Skywalker along the nearby Balmorra Run. This shortcut promised arrival at the medcenter before the Malevolence."
      • "As the ion cannon's ray approached the Republic squadron, Skywalker immediately ordered his fighters to head for the top edge of the ray, to avoid being neutralized. Despite the attempts of Shadow Squadron to evade, the ray deactivated three Y-wing bombers, as well as most of the Vulture droids. During the Squadron's evasive manuever, Matchstick's engines failed, causing his fighter to collide with fellow pilot Tag. The ships exploded killing both pilots and their gunners."
      • Databank title clone troopers in the Databank (original site is defunct) Please take a detailed look at this article and its infobox please.--RC 1138Republic EmblemI hate bugs! 21:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
        • RC 1138, I can only say that you must refer to other clone trooper GAs to get a sense of what sources should be listed in the infobox. His hair, eye, species and gender should be sourced to the episode, not the db entry. His height is the only suitable clone trooper db source. And as for the bio, if you say that he is the clone of Jango Fett, then that should be sourced to the db entry as well. Also, again, please make comments directly below each objection. JangFett (Talk) 21:41, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
  4. The Grand Master
    • Lots of awkward/incorrect phrasing. In small doses, this falls under {{sofixit}}, but in such large doses, this falls under GAN Rule 1.
    • Also some POV issues. Whether or not he died "in vain" would be one instance.
    • More to come. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 18:13, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote Unaddressed objections are now two weeks old. Nominator has left the site on Wookieevacation, thus abandoning the nomination. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:04, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
  2. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 19:09, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Jonjedigrandmaster Jedi symbol (We seed the stars) 19:10, March 10, 2010 (UTC)