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Kaul

  • Nominated by: OLIOSTER (talk) 23:40, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I shall not be lazy!

(5 ACs/2 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. But really, didn't you just kill all the guards anyway? NAYAYEN—it appears to be a frammistat 20:39, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 23:13, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:26, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Star Wars: The Kaul-ege years. Menkooroo 03:56, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 19:36, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
  6. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 21:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
  7. ACvote JangFett (Talk) 18:26, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Object

Jujiggum
  • In the infobox you say he's affiliated with the Nar Shaddaa refugees, but although you say he lived in the Refugee Sector, you never openly state anywhere else in the article that he was a member of the refugee group.
    • I didn't want you to remove this affiliation, I wanted you to specify it in the article. Unless it was speculation? Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:05, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • It was. He is never specifically called a refugee. OLIOSTER (talk) 22:38, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • "…in 3,951 BBY following the end of the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War." This reads almost exactly the same in the intro and body. Is there any way you could vary it up a bit?
  • Remember not to use OOU-perspective statements such as "For unexplained reasons…" Just because the reasons haven't been explained to us yet, doesn't mean they don't exist in-universe.
    • This is still speculative: you can't say that he never elaborated on his reasons; just because he never elaborated upon them to the Exile doesn't mean he never elaborated on them anywhere else, either. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:05, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Check out Gorton Colu's BTS for an example of some things you could add to better explain the game mechanics here.
    • As is, the BTS additions you've made are choppy and just read poorly in general. I hate making objections like this, but I've already made several such sofixit edits in my previous copy-edit, and I need to see that you can fix these yourself. Also, you need to make a direct connection between the gameplay and the fact that the Exile may or may not have interacted with Kaul. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:05, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Completely rewrote the BTS. Hope its better. OLIOSTER (talk) 22:38, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks for bringing it to the GAN. :) Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:24, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • A couple more from the new stuff you added. Grammar error here: "The information he offers the player, playing as the Jedi Exile, when speaking to him is correct, as attempting to open or take the contents…"
    • Again, completely rewrote the BTS. OLIOSTER (talk) 22:38, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Now that you've added the previously-missing information, there's definitely enough to warrant a P&T section.
  • As a note: please try to avoid contractions in articles, as well. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:05, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
    • Hopefully all good now. Thanks for the patience. I also added a quote to the first 3 sections. OLIOSTER (talk) 22:38, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • One more quick thing, with the addition of the quotes: I'm assuming he speaks Twi'leki? Whatever language it is, please specify. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:51, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
    • Added, although I did not know where best to put this information. If you can see a better place, by all means. OLIOSTER (talk) 22:59, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • As another quick note: I also added that he could also understand Basic, because I'm assuming the Exile spoke Basic. If that's not the case, then just remove that bit. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 23:13, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
        • Bah, I should of known to put it in the P&T. Thanks for the review. OLIOSTER (talk) 23:15, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
Nayayen's CAN leftovers
  • He says, when asked, that "If I had the skills needed for the task, I wouldn't be stuck here on Nar Shaddaa, now would I?". The information in this about his lack of such skills meaning that he was stuck on the moon should be added. This has nothing to do with his conversation with the Exile, it is just him saying that he wouldn't be on Nar Shaddaa if he had the skills. NAYAYEN—it appears to be a frammistat 14:40, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
    • Noted that he was stranded on Nar Shaddaaa. OLIOSTER (talk) 20:07, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Anything about the fact that he wouldn't be if he had these skills of evasion/stealth etc? I can't be the only one that thinks his desire to (have skills that allow him to) get off Nar Shaddaa is important? I'm not trying to make a big deal of this, but apologise if it looks like I am :P NAYAYEN—it appears to be a frammistat 20:30, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
Stop Kauling, stop Kauling, I don't wanna talk anymore!
  • The Exchange isn't mentioned in the bio until the very end, with no link and no context!
  • As it's nearly as long as the bio, can you cut down the intro a little bit? Some suggestions: Cutting the reference to the Mandalorian Wars might be advisable; simply mentioning one of the two wars would be OK. "she spoke with Kaul." could go too; that info would be implied if you just had it as "Kaul offered her info for a few credits." The description of the convo could use a little bitta trimming --- her initial skepticism would be OK to leave out of the intro and only be mentioned in the bio. Those are a few suggestions; I'd like to see it trimmed, but feel free to tackle it any way you wish! Menkooroo 05:03, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
Toprawa

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 18:26, March 18, 2011 (UTC)


  • As a reply to Nayayen, yes. I never even noticed this guy until I saw him listed on the Refugee page.