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Kaplan (colonel)

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:02, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: To be honest I'm pretty certain this guy died, but with Star Wars you can never be sure.

(3 ACs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Nah, let him come back as a cyborg arch-nemesis in Episode VIII. Imperators II(Talk) 20:43, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 03:06, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Supreme Emperor (talk) 06:21, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
  4. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:28, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  5. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 15:44, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
  6. —Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 12:48, February 27, 2017 (UTC)
  7. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 13:53, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

Object

Imperators II
  • Please pay attention to details. The BTS quote is missing some punctuation.
  • Why is the name of Bay 2 inconsistent between the lead quote and the article's body? Imperators II(Talk) 12:53, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
    • Ah I was getting confused between the formatting from different sources. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:16, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
  • I created some nice redlinks for you to fill.
    • I'm fairly certain we've always treated ship's hangars on anything smaller than a space station as something that is just included in the ship's article, but I've gone ahead and made both anyway since there isn't any clear rule. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • Can you give me any examples where such uniquely-named locations don't have their own articles? I easily found some examples to the contrary so it's definitely not "always": Bay Alpha Two, Bay One.
  • Can any of these actually be sourced to the film - Kaplan's rank, Lor San Tekka's name and occupation, Hux's first name?
    • The names can be sourced to the credits except Armitage, I have a feeling the occupation can too but I've referenced the dictionary just to be safe. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • Ah, didn't check the credits.
  • Have you given a thought to adding the bit about Kaplan's reaction to the escape attempt from the novelization?
    • His reaction is just to stop and look at the ship before delivering his line. I can include the opinions given as narration as his though I guess? I hadn't thought to since the section doesn't exactly seem to be from his point of view. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
      • You know, I agree with you; it's too ambiguous, better leave it out.
  • It seems to me (and is stated by the intro) that there was an explosion in the control room, not just windows shattering, as is stated in the body.
    • I feel the word blast covered this, but added explosion to be more specific. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
  • The intro and the body slightly differ in their description of what happens to Thanisson during the explosion. The former states that he is thrown to the floor, while the body mentions him being thrown away from his seat. I think the latter wording is more accurate, since it's hard to track Thanisson after his console blows up. Imperators II(Talk) 19:25, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
SE
  • One small thing, in the body you initially say the TIE was attached to a support cable, but later refer to it as a fuel line. Can you clarify what the proper term would be? Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:19, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
    • It's called different things in different sources but I've changed alll mentions to support cabling per the novel. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:40, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • "The fighter then successfully escaped but crashed on Jakku." I would not call crashing on Jakku a successful escape. I'd mention the sustained damage in the intro as well, something like "The TIE fighter sustained damage during its escape and was forced to crash-land on Jakku".
  • Any reason the first body image is only 200px wide? While there's no policy on this, 250px is usually the standard unless the image is taller than it is wide, which is not the case here. I recommend resizing the image.
    • I quite often make images only 200px so they don't cut into the text as much, but I'm happy to make it 250px if others have preference. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:17, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • "Kaplan was a human male who served in the military organization known as the First Order during their conflict with the Resistance, an offshoot of the New Republic." The First Order cannot be considered solely a military organization; it has political goals too. Reword this and try to find a place to link First Order military in the body as well.
    • I hate trying to give context for the First Order, I've added political is that good enough? Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:17, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
      • Something like "Served in the [[First Order military|military arm]] of the [[First Order]] during their conflict...", as I suppose he was technically part of the military branch, not the political branch.
        • Done as per your recommendation. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:56, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
  • "Once Dameron managed to disconnect the support cabling, the fighter successfully escaped from the Finalizer and headed for Jakku, but was shot down en route and crashed on the planet's surface." Probably worth including here that the Finalizer itself was responsible for the shoot-down. 1358 (Talk) 13:44, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 13:53, May 11, 2017 (UTC)


  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but I changed "bay two" to "Bay Two" (since that's how the novelization spells it) and added "and" to Kaplan's line, since it is (however weakly) audible. Imperators II(Talk) 19:25, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
    • I was going off the subtitles, but the novel should be fine since it's more consistent with the formatting elsewhere. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2016 (UTC)