Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Jinx/Legends

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Contents

  • 1 Jinx
    • 1.1 (3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 lolahsoka
        • 1.1.2.2 Axinal
        • 1.1.2.3 Kilson
        • 1.1.2.4 Cav
        • 1.1.2.5 Toprawa
        • 1.1.2.6 Kalifa
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Jinx

  • Nominated by: —TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 11:55, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Moved up from a failed comprehensive article nomination.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. —Axinal Convocation Chamber 15:45, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Good work. JangFett (Talk) 18:38, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
    • Danke schön. Sie sind ein TCW-Führer.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 19:30, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Although I did it for you this time, remember to reload the infobox in the future. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 16:55, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • Noted :).—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 20:09, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 11:13, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Good work overall. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:59, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Object

lolahsoka
  • First, you need to be careful when you're formatting. Already I see multiple mistakes in the article—missing infobox parameters, improper spacing between quotes and headings. Normally I would take care of this, but I would like you to see if you could find the mistakes yourself.
    • Might be done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • I took care of the rest; please take a look at the changes I've made and be careful in the future.
        • Thank you.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:09, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  • I am aware that Jinx said he's a Jedi or at least affiliated with them. The Jedi Order could go within the respective infobox parameter.
    • Added.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • "At some point during his training, he and two other trainees went on a mission, which resulted in the trio being captured by Trandoshan hunters." I am not seeing a good chronological transition between "At some point during his training" and "they were captured." Perhaps if you clarify what you mean by "At some point during his training," it would make better sense. What training? Also, you don't have to pipelink the two other kids in the sentence. See what you can do.
    • Addition of context achieved.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • Who were the two trainnes? The pipelink doesn't quite make sense here. With context for the two, you could say "—blah and blah—" or something along those lines. The reason why want you to do this is because currently the intro is not in Jinx's pov. You're pretty much summarizing what happened in these episodes with saying "the younglings" or "Ahsoka." Please try to keep the pov on Jinx, and, if necessary, rewrite parts of the intro to keep the focus on him and not other events.
        • Changed some words.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:07, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
          • "Kalifa was killed in the attack, and Tano assumed command." Command of what? " They later intercepted an arriving Trandoshan slave ship, and freed its sole prisoner, the Wookiee Chewbacca." Who's "they"?
            • Fixed. About the "At some point during his training" objection, ther isn't really much I can do—the guides give no clue, nor do the three clone cards. Kalifa's card says that she had been stranded on Wasskah for "a long time", but that's POV.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • What's a "Wasskah"? Just saying it's a moon isn't sufficient context here; what is it a moon/satellite of, or rather what planet does it orbit?
    • Extra context supplied.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Especially in the intro, I would avoid the term "managed," due to it being a misunderstood word. Unless Jinx managed something like a store, I would avoid the term.
    • Changed.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • What's an Island four?
    • Information given.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • What does Ahsoka have to do anything with the group? You say she was dropped off, but then you said she boosted the confidence of Jinx and clan. Please clarify.
    • Expanded.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • This can go with my pipelinking objecting above. I'll get back to this once the previous objection is taken care of.
  • Throwing in Chewie in that sentence just makes it more difficult to understand. I see what you mean, but others who haven't seen this episode or don't give a crap for TCW might not know what you're talking about (if you can see what I mean). You're throwing in too many subjects into one convoluted sentence; you can break up the sentence and tweak it a bit.
    • Separated.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • "[...]and after Kalifa was killed by a hunter, they, together with the newly-arrived Chewbacca, assaulted the Trandoshan floating fortress. Although the attack nearly ended with their defeat, the tide was turned by the arrival of reinforcements led by General Tarfful." There are a few errors with this. Firstly, chronologically it's incorrect, and you are mentioning events that seem that are occurring one after the other, which is not correct as well. What you can do if separate these two clauses—Kalifa, Ahsoka's arrival, Chewie's arrival, Tarfful's arrival. Too much going on. Also, IIRC, Jinx wasn't even there when Kalifa was killed, so mentioning her shouldn't be included. Like I said before, the intro does read like a short summarized version of these two episodes. See what you can do.
        • Fixed, I think.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:09, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
          • I left Kalifa's death in, because it exerts an influence, but added more context on Jinx's actions during the attack.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • You could link the Skirmish on Wasskah somewhere in the intro and bio. See what you can do.
    • Done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • So what happened after Tarrful appeared to save the day? Did they leave the moon and return to Coruscant? Give each other high fives?
    • Aftermath specified.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • Still remains, this is for the intro. You could take care of this with the other intro issues above.
        • This is the best I can do. The episode only shows Tano being taken to Coruscant.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:09, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
          • Let me be these first to say, make sure you check the episode guide as well. :P I realize the episode guides are now meaningless/pointless compared to season one or two guides, but they might mention something. In this case, you're right at this point. Keep an eye out in the future just in case a source mentions what happens to Jinx after the battle.
            • The guide for "Wookiee Hunt" says: "Freed from captivity, Ahsoka returns to the Jedi Temple and is reunited with Anakin Skywalker." Nothing in the clone cards, either.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
              • That's why I said you are correct at this point, though keep an eye out in the future just in case something appears in a source. JangFett (Talk) 15:03, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • "At some point before the Battle of Yavin," Why do you think this is sticking out like a sore thumb? Saying around 21 BBY will be more than fine for this case, no need to go too extreme with that. Also, no ref note is required due to the events of the episode are not yet confirmed.
    • Changed to annualconfirmed date.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Same with the intro, more context on Wasskah
    • Per above.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • You can expand the bio a lot and describe, with more detail, of Jinx's glorious adventures on Wasskah, them meeting Ahsoka, them going to go ahead and fight the Trandoshans, them meeting Chewie and then that cave scene, them fighting with the Trandos before Tarfull appeared. At the moment, the bio reads like a quick, short summarized version of it, something that feels like it belongs in an intro. I am going to keep this objection up here, as it might be time consuming for you. If you need any help, please don't hesitate to ask.
    • Grand expansion done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • I hope you don't mind but I'll be giving the bio another review after you take care of the intro issues. I see a couple of issues, mainly after when Ahsoka was dropped off, in the bio after a quick look during my copy-edit, but I will be pointing them out once you take care of these remaining objections. I don't want to throw too many objections at you all at once. :P
  • For your bio Island Four mentioning, you can mention that prior to any mentioning of Ahsoka. Since Jinx and clan were brought to Wasskah, they were dropped off on Island Four, as said in the intro, correct? Also more context on Island Four.
    • Done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • "he team was initially hesitant to accept[2] the Togruta's[9] advocation of a more aggressive stance, but after the death of Kalifa, he and O-Mer began to rely on her[4] and became more confident, going as far as to attack their captors' base with the help of a new captive: Chewbacca[2] the Wookiee.[10]" I don't understand why you say they were hesitant to accept Ahsoka's aggressive behavior. Why not, so please clarify. Also, why after did they accept to go with Ahsoka after Kalifa died? Quite confusing at the moment. You could mention Chewie and the kids talking with the man in a totally different sentence. Even though Jinx doesn't do anything, he is still present in those scenes.
  • "Though overwhelmed by the fortress' defenders, the group was eventually rescued by warriors and bounty hunters led by[2] General Tarfful.[2][11]" You lack any sort of mentioning about their plan of attack, how they were going to do this, which is all mentioned in the episode. Again, even though Jinx doesn't do much, he is still present. You can write it in his point-of-view. Follow him in the episode and write what he and his team does in detail, albeit not play by play. Also what happened during the fight? Who are these warriors and bounty hunters?
    • Expanded.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • I'm going to give the bio another look through later on
  • Per the brief information in his card, you can give him a short P&T.
    • "His optimism was crippled by the harsh conditions of Wasskah's jungle." What do you mean?
      • Clarified.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
        • What was he optimistic too? Also what caused him to change his viewpoint on the moon? You can give specific examples for the optimistic objection so it can be clearer.
          • I now added that it was the harshness of the moon that caused him to lose this trait. His optimism, however, is not shown in the episode—only his clone card mentions it.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
            • Yeah, I know, that's fine.
  • You shouldn't merge the P&T with the powers and abilities section, if that is your intention. Separate them, or get rid of the power and abilities if there's no information available.
    • Removed P&A.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Your bts needs some tweaking. You can check out various other TCW GAs if you need help with this.
    • That's the article's Achilles' heel.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • Still remains. :P
        • I checked the ep guides for both episode 21 and 22, but only his voice actor is mentioned. No other context in video commentaries and articles, either.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:09, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
          • If you looked at other TCW GAs, you will notice that they have air dates in them. :P Sorry, I should have been more specific.
            • Added air dates. Wow, they're the same :)!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:49, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
  • Overall you need to double check to see if you have the required detail necessary for a character article such as this. Even though the guy doesn't do much, he is still present in multiple scenes. Again, please don't hesitate to ask if you need help. I am willing to take you step by step if you need help. :) JangFett (Talk) 14:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the detailed review.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • For right now, please give more information of Jinx's past. I realize their is not much, but his homeworld was stated in his card. This can go before anything else in the bio. Once these (plus the intro work) is taken care of, I'll continue on and give the bio another review. JangFett (Talk) 22:56, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
    • Birth information added.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:09, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  • "Kalifa, who had assumed the position of leading Jinx and O-Mer, chose a strategy of inactivity to avoid being revealed, even if this would cost the lives of other captives." What do you mean "chose a strategy of inactivity to avoid being revealed"? Who were they hiding from?
  • You need to be more specific when you're saying things like "they're taking a more aggressive stance," or something along those lines. Aggressive to what/whom, ect and why? "She joined Jinx and the team, and began advocating a more aggressive stance, which his companions were initially hesitant to accept due to Kalifa's strong opposition and the preceding death of a Padawan who had been acting similarly to Tano."
    • Specified.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:49, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
  • "Kalifa, however, eventually noted that they had been lacking strength and force, and they had now received it in the form of Tano." I have no idea what you mean by this, most specially in the "Form of Tano" clause.
    • Clarified.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • I think you could set up a better transition from the sentence above (the listed objection above) and "Jinx and the group decided that they would have to seek out the Trandoshan base as their first action." Right now, it feels disjointed. See what you can do.
    • Chronological detail added.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
      • Much better
  • While this isn't an objection, be careful with details that don't need to be included. This is Jinx's article, and the poi should be kept on him. This isn't an episode summary article.
  • Also, you still have some more remaining objections above. JangFett (Talk) 06:25, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
    • I hope this copy-edit of mine removed some, but I will give a more thorough edit to the article after I have anything other than the laptop I am now at.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
      • For the remaining unstruck objections, please leave a comment underneath them. It would be easier for me to see what has been addressed or not instead of me finding the changes within the article blindly. Good job so far, though. :) JangFett (Talk) 15:03, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • Can you find a new quote for the new subsection in the bio? JangFett (Talk) 03:33, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
    • Yes.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
Axinal
  • I believe the event in which the Trandoshans hunt their captives for sport is referred to as "The Hunt," but I don't think there's an article for that event. Mind making one?
    • Well, the only mention of this is a spoken line by Garnac—"Time to see who is smart enough to join the hunt."—and thus, we do not know whether this is the event's name or not.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
      • I see your point. I still think it's worthy of an article, but it's not of huge importance to the article to me.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 09:52, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • In the intro: "When O-Mer noticed the Trandoshan floating fortress peering out of the clouds, the team came under attack by two of the latters' hover pods." This sentence could use some rewording. The word "latters'" seems somehow out of place and unnecessary to me.
    • Reworded.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • In the bio: "During the course of the mission, Jinx and the group was abducted [...]" Subject-verb disagreement here, as "Jinx and the group" is plural; I'd sofixit, except that there are multiple ways of doing so.
  • "[...] the preceding death of a Padawan who had been acting similarly to Tano." I think this unidentified Padawan may be worthy of his or her own article, as well.
    • Done, wip.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • "The next morning, the younglings noticed the Trandoshan floating fortress appear out of the clouds by accident." It may just be me, but I think there's some ambiguity here. Did the floating fortress appear by accident, or did the younglings notice it by accident?
    • Removed ambiguity.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • In the P&T: "He was originally optimistic, but he lost it due to the the conditions on Wasskah." It's clear to me that "it" refers to his optimism, but because you use the adjective "optimistic" rather than the noun, the "it" doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
    • Solved by breaking the sentence's neck.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • In the BTS: "Jinx first appeared in "Padawan Lost," the twenty-first episode of the third season of the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series, and also appeared in the following episode, "Wookiee Hunt"." The placement of the punctuation in relation to the episodes' quotes is currently inconsistent. IMHO, the punctuation belongs outside the quotes, because the episode is obviously not called "Padawan Lost,". However, as I seem to be one of few Wookieepedians with that viewpoint, whichever way you would like to do it would be fine with me.
    • Yeah, it's fine if it's inside. JangFett (Talk) 21:55, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
      • It's the inconsistency I'm worried about at the moment; "Padawan Lost" has the comma inside the quotes, but "Wookiee Hunt" has the period outside the quotes. Like I said, I'm willing to go either way, as long as it's consistent within the article.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 09:52, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
        • Comma replaced.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:02, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
          • WP:MOS#Quotations… "Per standards of American English, double quotation marks (" ") should be used and the period (full stop), comma, question and exclamation marks should be within the quotation." 1358 (Talk) 15:46, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
            • Done. Thanks for the clarification.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 15:52, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • I don't see Skirmish on Wasskah linked anywhere in the bio. Could you perhaps add that somewhere?
  • Aside from my and JangFett's objections, the article is looking very good, and I'm highly impressed with the significant changes that you have made to the article since its original CA nomination. Keep up the good work.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 21:32, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
    • Solved with some subsectioning.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Also, I think the article is long enough to merit at least one additional picture within the bio somewhere.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 09:52, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
    • Done. Thanks for the review and the kind words!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:02, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
      • No problem, nice work.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 15:45, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
Kilson
  • "When O-Mer noticed the Trandoshan floating fortress peering out of the clouds, the team came under attack by two of the Trandoshans' hover pods." The transition is a bit odd between the first and second paragraph of the Intro. Perhaps you should insert "The next day, O-Mer..." or "The next morning, O-Mer..."
  • "Despite Jinx and the team's initial successes, they were soon cornered, but the timely arrival of Wookiee General Tarfful and two bounty hunters—Sugi and Seripas—turned the tide of the battle." Two things here. First, you make it sound as if just Tarfful, Sugi, and Seripas rescued the younglings, which isn't the case. Instead, you can just say, "...the timely arrival of a rescue team led by Wookiee General Tarfful..." Second, you should point out that the rescue team came because they had been notified by the Jedi's transmitter.
  • You should mention in the Bio that the Jedi team made a hideout inside a hollowed out tree. That's a very important point, and a lot of events you mention in the article happen in the hideout.
    • Two things. One, you should probably create an article for the hideout, or at least insert a redlink. Second, many of the events you mention in the article take place in the hideout, and you should point that out.
      • Done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • "Around 21 BBY,[9] Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker's Padawan, Ahsoka Tano, was brought to Island Four and encountered Jinx, Kalifa, and O-Mer." You should point out that this now takes place during the Clone Wars.
  • I believe you should mention the "other Padawan" who was killed in the previous section, instead of saying it after the fact.
    • "During their time on the moon, a Padawan also arrived on the moon, but was killed." You should insert here how the Padawan wanted to take a more active approach against the Trandoshans.
      • Added.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • "The trio raided an arriving Trandoshan slave ship, with Jinx engaging one of the crewmembers in unarmed combat," Didn't O-Mer help Jinx engage that Trandoshan in unarmed combat?"
  • Likely more to come after you address these. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 20:21, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
    • Done for all.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:04, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • In the Intro, you said O-Mer noticed the floating fortress descend upon them, but in the Bio, you say the younglings noticed the fortress. Which is it?
    • It's "noticed" at both places. In the intro, Jinx notices the base peering out of the clouds, which is not "descending".—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I think you didn't get want I was trying to say. I mean, did just O-Mer see the fortress, or did the entire group see it? Kilson(Let's have a chat) 02:59, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
        • Subject fixed.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 20:22, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  • You should mention in the Bio that Jinx didn't believe the Wookiee's plan to create the transmitter would work, like you did in the intro. You should also mention that after Chewie was finished building the transmitter, it didn't appear to work, so that's why they launched the attack on the Trandoshan fortress.
    • Done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Now that you inserted the part about how the rescue team was alerted by the transmitter in the Intro, you need to put that in the Bio as well.
    • Done.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • After they were rescued, weren't they transported back to the Jedi Temple on Coruscant? If so, that should be inserted at the end of the Bio.
    • They weren't. The episode only shows Tano in a happy reunion with Skywalker. The guides and the cards don't give any clue, either.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Ah, OK. I couldn't remember that part of the episode exactly. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 02:59, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
  • Since this is an article about a member of the Jedi Order, you must create a "Powers and abilities" section because Jinx is shown using Force abilities in the episodes.
    • Created a brief section.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Wasn't Jinx also able to use Force Push on the Trandoshans? Kilson(Let's have a chat) 02:59, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
        • True. Added.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 20:22, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  • Otherwise, good job. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 21:24, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:57, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
Cav
  • Intro: Jinx and the group acquired a hover pod through the use of a captured hunter, - the use of the word "use" here doesn't sit well. Consider changing it for a better, more descriptive term, or elaborate on the way he was used.
  • Early life and capture: Kalifa, who had assumed the position of leading Jinx and O-Mer, chose a strategy of inactivity—hiding from the hunters to avoid being revealed—even if this would cost the lives of other captives. What other captives?
  • Engaging the hunters: How was Tano captured?
  • Engaging the hunters: The final sentence: However, the transmitter Chewbacca had built managed to send a signal, which resulted in the arrival of Wookiee warriors and bounty hunters[2]—Sugi and Seripas[7]—led by[2] Wookiee General Tarfful,[2][7] turned the tide, killing the remaining Trandoshans and extracting the Jedi and Chewbacca from the moon.[2] is a little awkward. Mentioning the bounty hunters before Tarfful looks odd. I would suggest changing it to something akin to However, the transmitter Chewbacca had built managed to send a signal, which resulted in the arrival of Wookiee warriors led by General Tarfful, and bounty hunters Sugi and Seripas, who turned the tide, killing the remaining Trandoshans and extracting the Jedi and Chewbacca from the moon. I would do this myself, but since it requires a bit of ref relocation, I leave this up to you so that it is correct. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 18:56, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
    • All resolved. Thanks for the review!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
      • The sourcing on the last one is messed up - you have two statements one after the other sourced to ref note [2], then you're sourcing and mdash to [2] and [7]. See here: which resulted in the arrival of a rescue team led by[2] Wookiee General Tarfful. Consisting of Wookiee warriors and hired bounty hunters[2]—Sugi and Seripas[7]—,[2][7] the unit turned the tide of the battle, killing the remaining Trandoshans and extracting the Jedi and Chewbacca from the moon.[2] - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:33, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
        • Took out the trash.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 20:22, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • This article's intro is just too long. It's almost half the entire length of the Biography, which should tell you that it's just too long. Remember, you're not telling us the story of this character's life in the intro, you're just summarizing his most significant deeds as succinctly as possible. I recommend going through each sentence and considering whether the detail you have in each is critically necessary or not, and cut out the fat wherever possible. The intro is currently at 311 words. I would seriously suggest looking into cutting it by almost 100 words, or close to it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:29, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • Forgive my incompetence, but I can't get it below 234 words. I can't find more detail to omit. Any suggestions?—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 20:09, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
      • I still think it could probably be condensed some, but I guess I'm ok with it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:40, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
        • Thanks!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:53, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • The transmitter link here takes us to a disambig page. Can we be more specific in our linking? "...the imprisoned Wookiee Chewbacca, who attempted to construct a transmitter"
    • I will go with a pipelink to comlink, since the exact type of Chewie's machine is not clarified and this is the most general option.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:53, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure this really makes sense. Can we clarify this statement at all? "...who riddled the fortress of hunters." Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:41, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
    • Done. Thanks for the review and your patience!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:53, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • If O-Mer is not quoted in the first Biography dialoque quote, there's no real need to include his name in the attribution line.
    • Removed.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:12, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
  • If the article is going to reference books by page number, please at least keep it consistent throughout. i.e., if the Atlas is specifying a page number, Annual 2011 should too.
    • Since I have no access to the Annual, would it be desirable to leave out the Atlas page number?—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:12, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
      • That would be acceptable. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
  • Some very poor, very basic linking errors, including double linking, linking to subjects upon secondary but not initial mentions in the article, and missed/inconsistent linking between infobox and article proper, as well as basic punctuation errors. I suggest taking a look through my review changes to get a better feel for what I'm talking about, specifically in regards to the linking issues. If you have further questions, feel free to come on IRC or contact me on my talk page. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:21, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thank you for fixing the links. I removed multiple commas now and rewrote the intro.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:12, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure why you did so, because the article was correct as it was. This was not intended as a formal objection, but as a reviewing note. All of the comma changes you made were in error, and I have since corrected these. However, as a result of this intro rewrite, I do have a new objection listed below. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure what the point of adding the new second paragraph to the intro was. All it's doing is repeating less-than-vital P/T information, which isn't really the kind of thing we stick in the intro. I personally thought your previous version was fine. At any rate, I would recommend removing this as unnecessary. You're welcome to either revert to the former version of just go with the first paragraph that's there now. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
    • Removed second paragraph. Thank you for your efforts in reviewing this article.TK999—[Discuss] 17:33, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
Kalifa
  • I think you could list Kalifa's clone card as an indirect mention in the Sources section, due to the line "She tries to remain strong enough to look over her fellow castaways." Thoughts?
    • Good idea.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 11:55, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • I also think that you could put another image in, if you wanted. There are some images of Jinx in the slideshows of the episode guides of both Padawan Lost and Wookiee Hunt that you could take screenshots of; a right-aligned image that encompassed both Personality and traits and Powers and Abilities wouldn't be out of place. Your call, though. Menkooroo 11:34, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, most images have him in the background. There would be a good one, which depicts his shock over death of Kalifa, but much of the left side of the picture is Tano's big head.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 11:55, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
      • I can crop Ahsoka out of it and upload it for ya if you want. Menkooroo 13:16, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
        • Yes, thanks. It is Image 5 of the "Wookiee Hunt" ep guide.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:18, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
          • Done! Check it out. I wasn't able to crop Ahsoka out entirely, but the image is much more focused on Jinx and O-Mer than it otherwise would have been. Feel free to play around with it; I'm not sure if the caption I wrote is entirely accurate. Menkooroo 08:17, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
            • Thanks! It's great!—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 08:34, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 20:59, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


  • You can find images of Jinx within the episode. You can send JMAS a message through his talk page and request for images of Jinx. Normally you don't have to put images that are related to the text of the article (your Island four image) when there's images of the subject of the article available. JangFett (Talk) 03:31, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
    • Replaced with new upload.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 13:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
      • The black bars should be cropped out of the image. Menkooroo 14:14, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
        • Done, but there's some fubar going on. I cropped the image with GIMP 2.6, and uploaded the new version. In the file history, you can see that the new version has no black bars, but the image itself is problematic.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 14:21, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
          • Yeah, Wikia takes a while to update the cache when a new version of an image is uploaded. It should be OK in a day or so. If not, you can ask Culator to move the file for you, which automatically updates the cache. Menkooroo 14:42, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Is there anyone who can help e to trim down the intro further?—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 10:01, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • I would suggest more closely looking at other Good Articles of about the same length. Intros only mention what is essential to the most basic understanding of the article's subject—in this case, not every single detail from each episode needs to be mentioned. I can only suggest that you try to cut down the intro more by keeping that in mind; if anyone provides specific examples, then he or she may end up rewriting the article's intro for you, which usually isn't very prudent, since the responsibility lies with the nominator. CC7567 (talk) 20:45, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • Did some rewrite and trimming.—TK-999 Era-imp(Rise of the Empire) 09:50, June 30, 2011 (UTC)