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Jedi Temple Guard
- Nominated by: —Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 02:17, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: These guys totally mimicked Revan… For WP:TCW.
(5 ACs/2 Users/7 Total)
Support
- For the Republic! Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 20:21, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Smashing JangFett (Talk) 14:44, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 01:16, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
Sir Cavalier of One(Squadron channel)
Cade Calrayn 18:32, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
- Supreme Emperor (talk) 18:45, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 22:51, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Object
A Force user
That these guys are Jedi Sentinels, is that really sourcable to the Encyclopedia, which just says "sentinels", lowercase?Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 15:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- I think so, maybe I could link it to the word, if you think that's the best route.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I think that would be best. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 16:27, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 16:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I think that would be best. Corellian Premier
- I think so, maybe I could link it to the word, if you think that's the best route.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Is it worth it to expand the last history sentence to say Palpatine ordered them to take Barriss away?Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 15:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Context on Palpatine ;) At least that he is head of the trial. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 16:27, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 16:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Context on Palpatine ;) At least that he is head of the trial. Corellian Premier
- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Cool article. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 15:38, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, it was actually pretty ok to do.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Jangeth
"The Jedi Temple Guards were an ancient security group established many years before the Clone Wars between the Galactic Republic and Confederacy of Independent Systems. " Where exactly does it mention when they were established? In order to not extrapolate information, you could just mention "The Jedi Temple Guards were an ancient security group," as per what the source says. JangFett (Talk) 19:07, March 26, 2013 (UTC)- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:29, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Can you find a way to mention that Anakin was a Jedi Knight in the intro and history? To avoid confusion. I know some noobs tend to think that Anakin is a Jedi Master. :P JangFett (Talk) 22:40, March 27, 2013 (UTC)- No problem, done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 22:45, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
"Confronting Offee in the Temple's dormitories, the Mirialan attempted to flee from the Jedi Knight but was blocked by the Temple Guards": the dependent clause at the beginning of the sentence (in which Skywalker is the subject) doesn't collaborate with the second part of the sentence (where Offee, the Mirialan, is the subject). Also, it's not immediately clear that Offee is the Mirialan since she isn't introduced that way. Please fix.Please check the references in the Bts. The episode "Sabotage" itself is being used as a reference for something that should be attributed to its online guide.I would also suggest mentioning the Encyclopedia entry in the Bts, seeing as it's one of the few textual sources we have on the group.CC7567 (talk) 15:28, April 13, 2013 (UTC)- All fixed. Thanks for the review.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 18:27, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
I think some more detail can be added from the episodes, particularly the Jedi trial sequence in "The Wrong Jedi." The Guards activated their lightsaber pikes when Skywalker protested to the Council's expulsion of Tano from the Order, and one of them also removed her Padawan braid in accordance with the Council's decision. They're minor details, but I believe they're relevant and can be added to the article without being play-by-play. Please double-check the episodes to see if any other details like those can be added to the article.CC7567 (talk) 19:12, April 13, 2013 (UTC)- Another thing that can be added: the fact that during Skywalker's duel with Offee, the Guards activated their lightsabers and surrounded them specifically to protect Sinube and his class of younglings from harm, which you can see during the episode. Details like these will ensure that the article is complete and comprehensive. CC7567 (talk) 19:16, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
- OK, these have been worked into the article. Thanks for the heads-up.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:08, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Please take a look at my slight adjustments; there was some stuff that required fixing. CC7567 (talk) 14:52, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Forgot to add they ignited their sabers, added.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:54, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Please take a look at my slight adjustments; there was some stuff that required fixing. CC7567 (talk) 14:52, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
- OK, these have been worked into the article. Thanks for the heads-up.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:08, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Another thing that can be added: the fact that during Skywalker's duel with Offee, the Guards activated their lightsabers and surrounded them specifically to protect Sinube and his class of younglings from harm, which you can see during the episode. Details like these will ensure that the article is complete and comprehensive. CC7567 (talk) 19:16, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
I'm a little hesitant about seeing the entire second paragraph sourced to "The Wrong Jedi"—I realize that the Newsreel had some substantial information about previous episodes, but it might be better to use "To Catch a Jedi" where appropriate to be more specific.In the first paragraph, "Sabotage" is not a source for the fact that six Jedi Knights were killed; that either needs to be sourced to "The Jedi Who Knew Too Much" or one of the guides. The same goes for the memorial service, which is sourced to "Sabotage" (though it wasn't in that episode). The chronology also isn't correct in regards to when the funeral took place—it took place after the anti-Jedi rally seen in "Sabotage." Please rectify this.CC7567 (talk) 14:52, April 14, 2013 (UTC)- Both taken care of, I think.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 15:37, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
Last few ones: I think there's a bit more that can be added from the Encyclopedia entry. First, considering that they were called "ancient" by the time of the Clone Wars, I would suggest adding something to the beginning of the History section to reflect that they were formed a long time prior to the war.- The current first sentence of the Description is a bit long-winded; please find some way to break it up or punctuate it better for flow. CC7567 (talk) 20:49, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:52, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- One more thing: would you be able to incorporate the bit about them being established "many years prior to the Clone Wars" at the beginning of the History section, instead of in the Description section? It would be more relevant to note in the former, since it deals with the chronology of the group. CC7567 (talk) 21:06, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- No problem, done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 21:10, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Please make sure to merge the bit about the Clone Wars with the context in the second sentence somehow. Noting that they began in 22 BBY might also be relevant to mention. CC7567 (talk) 21:11, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- And done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 21:22, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Please make sure to merge the bit about the Clone Wars with the context in the second sentence somehow. Noting that they began in 22 BBY might also be relevant to mention. CC7567 (talk) 21:11, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- No problem, done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 21:10, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- One more thing: would you be able to incorporate the bit about them being established "many years prior to the Clone Wars" at the beginning of the History section, instead of in the Description section? It would be more relevant to note in the former, since it deals with the chronology of the group. CC7567 (talk) 21:06, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:52, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- The current first sentence of the Description is a bit long-winded; please find some way to break it up or punctuate it better for flow. CC7567 (talk) 20:49, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Second, the fact that a Jedi Knight serves as a Guard as part of his/her "ongoing commitment to the order" indicates that serving as a Guard is one of the duties of a Knight. I'd like to see that more directly incorporated into the Description section. The reason I'm getting at this is because it's heavily implied that the Guards are actually made up of rotating Knights, and while I know that isn't confirmed anywhere, I think the article should reflect this a bit if possible, since the Encyclopedia entry seems to imply the same thing without directly confirming it. If I'm not being clear enough, please let me know and I can try to explain it a bit better.CC7567 (talk) 05:03, April 16, 2013 (UTC)- Both done. Regarding the second objection, I think I know what you mean, please take a look at what I added and see what you think.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 13:11, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
SE
One minor thing, in the first paragraph of the history section, you say "killing six Jedi, clone troopers, and some of the Temple employees." Could you add in several or something like that in front of clone troopers? Thanks,Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:03, April 16, 2013 (UTC)- Done.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 13:12, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 22:51, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Many thanks to CC7567 for his input.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 04:47, March 26, 2013 (UTC)