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Ja'Gatcha

  • Nominated by: JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 21:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC) 21:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: A quickie.

(2 ACs/4 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 00:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. * Cylka * 18:48, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 10:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. ACvote I always thought these were the weirdest thing in Kotor ... - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 12:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Graestan(Talk) 02:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
  6. GroceryBagGrocery Store 04:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Object

  1. From the Moffship of Grand Moff Tranner:
    • Creating Category:Paaerduags would be a good idea.
      • Done. Hadn't noticed it didn't exist.
    • Remove the speculation on his death, please. Still mention the bombardment, however.
      • Removed; figured I went a little far but it was worth a shot, right? :P
    • Maybe a little more context on the events involving Taris. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 21:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
      • How so? I mean, concerning what, exactly? JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 23:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
        • Sorry for not explaining. I was thinking maybe a little background on the Jedi Civil War, and why Malak was after Bastila. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 00:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Cylka:
    • Maybe add a sentence or two about Taris's severe intolerance of aliens. It could explain why he was insulted soThanky muy muy! much and decided/needed to hide out in Javyar's in the Lower City.
      • That's a good point. Added a bit on that.
    • If you come up to him and say you want to stare at the freak, he'll indignantly claim he's the "pinnacle of evolution" and then tell you why humans aren't. Maybe you could fit that in somewhere - Bts?
      • This was a good catch, because it can definitely fit in with the P&T.
    • Good job with so little to go on. * Cylka * 03:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the read and objections. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 16:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. From Graestan the Mighty:
    • It's either got to be he or they, and not both, to avoid confusion; I suggest they, using the example of the craftily-worded Xamus/Sumax.
      • I thought I'd used they throughout the entire article, for the exact reason you mentioned. Fixed instances of he.
        • Actually, I meant "he." Sorry, typo. I mean, two heads doesn't really make two individuals. Graestan(Talk) 16:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
          • Ah, but Ja'Gatcha (and the other known Paauerduag) refer to themselves using "we", "us", etc. Plus, the creature actually begins life as two separate units and then becomes one later.JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
            • You mean to tell me that it's a joined being, not a two-headed individual, and that wasn't worthy of description at the beginning of the bio, also? I'm fine with the "they" now, but I'd like you to add something about that to his bio. Graestan(Talk) 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
              • You'll note that I actually did that when I mentioned it above. Sorry it wasn't in there earlier, I hadn't realized that fact until later in the game and then forgot about it. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 04:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
    • "remained in Javyar's Cantina" might be speculative; did he really stay there the whole time?
      • Taken care of.
    • I wouldn't refer to the time period as "circa 4,000 BBY" because that would place it during the Great Sith War.
      • Specified time.
    • Perhaps some more quotes? I seem to remember the conversation being pretty interesting.
      • It is indeed, and I can't believe I forgot to grab some. I'll put 'em in once I get to my desktop.
    • Gamemechanics around a description of the interaction with Revan would be permissible, and preferable in my opinion. Also, wording avoiding the term "is unknown" would be better in the Bts.
      • Well... the thing is, such a description would consist of "Revan visited them as they hid out in a dark corner of the cantina." It doesn't really add that much, plus the {{Gamemechanics}} template looks really ugly for one sentence. I'm willing to put it in, though, but I just want you to know what it'd be like ;)
        • You can add more than one sentence based on the conversation. Graestan(Talk) 16:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
          • Yeah, but what's the benefit? Nothing of value that isn't already in the article is added, and would just feel extraneous. I can think of "The Paaerduag lamented their condition to the former Sith Lord", but the template is still quite ugly. I'm putting it in, though. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 19:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
            • It's not extraneous. It makes the article complete. From Rule 9: "For articles under 1000 words in length, comprehensive detail is required with all information covered from all sources and appearances." Is there yet more to be added, as well? Graestan(Talk) 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
              • No, nothing else, unless I'm missing something somewhere. No, it should be all taken care of. ;) JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 04:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Graestan(Talk) 01:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. Toprawa:
    • Beginning the second introduction sentence with "They" is extremely confusing without prior knowledge that his species is somehow some sort of plural entity. Some context is necessary here, please: "They later became stranded on Taris..." Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Contextified for both. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 20:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 06:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)