Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Iridonian

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Iridonian

• Nominated by: --Darth tom (Imperial Intelligence) 18:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: I is for Iridonian...

(3 ACs/5 Users/8 Total)

Support

1. --Eyrezer 07:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
2. —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 06:27, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
3. Certainly much more interesting than overused Mandos. I'd actually like to see more on these guys. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 08:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
4. Small sp/gr edits, and we're set Enochf 22:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
5. Jedi Kasra (talk) 16:53, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
6. Grunny ^(Talk) 04:54, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
7. ~ SavageBob 23:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
8. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Object

1. From the Council Chambers:
   • BTS: "Previously the term "Iridonian" was used to refer to Zabraks, but the description of their culture." Confusing to the point that it barely makes any sense. Please reword.
   • "Iridorian" vs. "Iridonian": The article uses both spellings, and it appears that "Iridonian" is correct based on statements in the BTS and on the talk page. I've fixed a couple, but you should look through the article yourself and fix the rest.
   • —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 21:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
     • Both have since been removed, due to being factually incorrect, so those are addressed. --Darth tom (Imperial Intelligence) 12:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
       • The first one was expanded on by Mauser and has been struck. The second one, however, is not fixed due to Mauser's reversion; your best bet would probably be to wait a little bit and see if Tranner gets a response from Mr. Chee before fixing it, though I do feel that Mauser is probably right below. —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 04:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
         • Alright, I've struck based on Eyrezer's fix and Mauser's point below. I was hoping to see an official response from Mr. Chee first, but it appears that such a response may not be coming. Let's move this nomination on, and if we do get a response from Mr. Chee, then we can work things out then. —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 06:27, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
2. Graestan:
   • The Rodney Thompson quote should be sourced to the link, not the WotC article here.
   • Quotes in the prose should be replaced with paraphrasing.
   • Graestan^(Talk) 12:25, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
     • Do you mean for this to include one in the Bts as well, or just that one in the Society section? --Eyrezer 23:23, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
       • This objection is not fixed. Graestan^(Talk) 02:26, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
         • I'm going to allow it as-is based on the fact that you're the only person bothering me about objections right now that has any room whatsoever to stand on with them. Graestan^(Talk) 13:52, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
3. Prepare to be savaged...
   • Just a couple of things. First, although the Iridonian in the game speaks Basic, can we really conclude that that's the species' native language? I always thought the infobox field was for native tongues, not languages a species can speak.
   • Second, what do you mean by "a non-existent code of honor"? Does this mean that the Echani purport to follow a code of honor but the Iridonians believe it's a sham, or does it mean that the Echani don't profess or follow a code?
   • Finally, are there any hard dates you can throw in the article? I always like to see dates, as they ground the prose a bit more and allow the reader to wrap his or her head around the when of things. Doesn't the KotOR game have an in-universe date for when Revan meets the mercenary? That's it! Good work! ~ SavageBob 14:25, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
     • Language removed and date added. As to the code of honour, the direct quote is "The Echani believe in a non-existent warrior code of honor, and the Mandalorians prize credits above bloodshed." Elsewhere, the Echani profess their code of honour, so I've tried to reword it accordingly. --Eyrezer 10:09, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
4. Toprawa:
   • Considering the character on Manaan whom Revan encounters is the only real member of this species to appear in canon, I think it would be best to provide a link to an article for that character in both the intro and the bio, and perhaps the infobox as well if you feel that's appropriate. And since this will leave a red link in the intro, please do go ahead and fill that in. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:27, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure it's spelled "Iridorian" (which you use throughout the article), since "Iridonian" is used to denote Zabraks from Iridonia. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 20:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
  • See the BTS and the related discussion on the article's talk page. —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 21:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
    • My point still stands. "Iridorian" is still used throughout the article. Additionally, since "Iridonian" refers to a type of Zabrak, this article should include information on Iridonian Zabraks. For all we know, the being in the main image may be a Zabrak under that armor. Either way, something's just not right - and unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done short of asking Leland Chee about it. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 23:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
• My apologies, gentlemen. I forgot to check the name prior to the article's nomination, despite my own doubt that it was "Iridonian". That's now fixed. --Darth tom (Imperial Intelligence) 12:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Alright, you redirected "Iridonian" to Zabrak and changed this nomination to "Iridorian," but Mauser has reverted your changes. So until this issue of "Iridorian" vs. "Iridonian" is resolved, this won't pass. To help speed this up, I've left a post on the "Holocron continuity database questions" forum on StarWars.com, asking Mr. Chee about this issue. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 13:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
    • To me the case is simple. We have 2 variations of spelling: from KOTOR game and Camaign Guide and we were that LFL considered the one from the game to be a misspelling. Mauser^Comlink 13:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
      • In the meantime, I've semi-protected it for a month (which will still let most people frequenting this page edit at will.) —Silly Dan _(talk) 03:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
• Refresh my memory, but I think we don't ordinarily include the {{Top}} template on sentient species articles. (If we did include it for this article, the "Old Republic" era icon would be the one to use.) —Silly Dan _(talk) 03:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
  • That is correct, we don't use eras. --Eyrezer 23:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Remove nomination (AgriCorps vote only)

1. Per Tranner's comments above, although I'm pretty certain it's "Iridorian." This is what BtSes are for. Graestan^(Talk) 16:36, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

   • I rewrote the Bts today to, hopefully, make it clearer what is occurring in this article. Does that help? --Eyrezer 12:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)