Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Hemi

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Hemi

• Nominated by: Liverpool92 15:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: First Mon Calamari character GAN
• WookieeProject (optional): WP:COMICS

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

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Support

1. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
2. I've rearranged and reworded parts of the body in my copy edit, let me know if there's anything you disagree with. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:19, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
3. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 14:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
4. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 03:53, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
5. MasterFred(talk) 23:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Object

Vitus

• To begin with, I think we can split the History paragraph --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed through discord.--Liverpool92 03:09, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Braha

• Article currently falls under this category Category:Marvel usages with archived URLs not in Archive. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 21:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
  • For the record, this maintenance category is Cade's fault; the article does provide backup links as mandated by the sourcing policy. Nothing that can be fixed in the article, really. 1358 ^(Talk) 19:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Ok I'll just ignore it for now then.--Liverpool92 03:09, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
      • Fair enough. Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 07:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Macaroni

• Context for the Executor.
• Species and gender should be mentioned in the bio or P+T, not both.
• Skin and eye color should only be mentioned in the P+T.
• File:Hemi and Dodonna.png can use some cropping, and the stuff to the left of Dodanna doesn't seem necessary. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 21:23, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
  • All fixed.--Liverpool92 03:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
• Intro can mention a date.
• Please split up the first bio paragraph.
• Please specify what Solo was signaled to do. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 00:14, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Handled.--Liverpool92 02:22, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
• Intro should be expanded a bit, probably with more details on the assault.
  • Fixed.
• Should "assault" in "Assault on the Mako-Ta Space Docks" be capitalized or not? JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 18:25, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
  • The assault isn't conjecture so it could be fine.--Liverpool92 00:50, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
    • There can be un-capitalized non-conjectural titles. I'd like you to investigate if this is the case. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 17:35, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
      • Doesn't seem like it is the case.--Liverpool92 03:10, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
• Bio could use some subsectioning. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Subsectioned.--Liverpool92 20:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
• The second and third paragraphs don't mention Hemi at all, I think a smidge of condensing is needed. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 00:07, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Is that good there isn't a lot to condense.--Liverpool92 13:00, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Fan

• Alliance Fleet links to the legends page for Rebel Alliance Navy.
• "The Mon Calamari told General Dodonna that the Alliance Fleet had escaped, but their shields were failing." Specify that it was the Republic's shields which were failing here, as this sentence could be misinterpreted as the shields of all rebel ships that escaped Mako-Ta failing at once.
• Starship should be linked to in the body.
• "When the starships were able to get back and running" Back from what?
• "Hemi was at Dodanna's side when he ordered the fleet to scatter" specify that Dodonna was the one who ordered the fleet to scatter. Fan26 (Talk) 03:35, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Handled. For the first objection the link wasn't needed to begin with and the fourth one I reworded the whole sentence.--Liverpool92 03:57, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Ayrehead02

• I think you can expand the start of the bio to include a couple of sentences of description of what is happening during the Assault on the Mako-Ta Space Docks and the Republic's part in it. For example, it sounds awkward to say "the Star Destroyers were converging on them as they had used the MC80A as bait" and "override codes to get the Shu-Torun technologies that rendered them useless" as you're referring back to information that should ideally have been established up front. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:08, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Added.--Liverpool92 21:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Reading through the comic again I think there's still some major stuff missing, you state that the problem caused by the Shu-Torun technology is the hangar bay doors, but the more important issue is that they can't jump to hyperspace. They actually resolve both those issues though and the Republic does escape, but then comes back to the docks to try and help rescue those on the stations still. I'd also include that the cruisers were at the docks being refitted with the Shu-Torun technology, and mention that the Shu-Torun people betray the Alliance because they're working for the Empire. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
      • Added. I think the area might need an image now but I want your thoughts.--Liverpool92 03:07, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
        • There's definitely room for an image in the second subsection. Before you mention the Imperial attack you still need to establish that the Republic was one of the cruisers at the dock being refitted. I'd also establish the Shu-Torun technologies being added during the refit and that they're actually sabotage before you mention the Imperials showing up. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
          • Added.--Liverpool92 04:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
• You should establish in the first sentence of the second subsection that they're using the Republic as bait, rather than the second. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• In the first subsection you say that the rebel cruisers are brought sucessfully online, but then in the second subsection they still need Han Solo to provide them with the codes to override the Shu-Torun technologies? Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• "The Republic was taking heavy damage when Hemi reported that although all the remaining cruisers were online, their engines were too damaged for them to go anywhere" this makes it sound like all the cruisers have damaged engines rather than just the Republic. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed.--Liverpool92 21:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Vergence

• Just one thing: both of the quotes suggest that Hemi said the entire thing, but the way the quotes are written (and the comic image on the page) suggest that others spoke part of them. Can you please make it clear that multiple people are speaking in the quotes? VergenceScatter (talk) 22:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Fixed.--Liverpool92 12:47, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
• Not an objection, but you can put WP:Comics at the top of the nomination. VergenceScatter (talk) 22:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Done.--Liverpool92 12:47, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

CC-8

• Gray should be used rather than grey, keeping with the Manual of Style requirement for American English
  • Fixed.--Liverpool92 01:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC
    • Not seeing any change here Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
      • Check the PT, Equipment and infobox.--Liverpool92 12:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
        • In the interest of speeding up this nomination process a bit: Please re-read the objection. Gray with an A is the American English variant while this article uses grey with an E. 1358 ^(Talk) 09:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
          • My bad misread it.--Liverpool92 02:33, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Also from the MoS, Rebel should be capitalized when talking about the organization Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 04:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • I have been informed that lowercase is used in canon. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 08:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

UberSoldat

• Precedent is to put the character's place and date of death in the same note. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:19, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Fixed.--Liverpool92 01:57, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
    • It still does not include the place. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:01, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
      • There?--Liverpool92 02:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
• Star Wars: Battles that Changed the Galaxy places Mako-Ta in 20 AFE, or 1 ABY, so you can update the date in the article with this source. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:11, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  • There. Does that include the death parameter too?--Liverpool92 02:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
    • The book does not use any BBY/ABY dates, as I implied above, so you still need a note explaining how you get to 1 ABY in the first place. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Got it.--Liverpool92 04:40, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
        • It can be shortened. You don't need to explain how the calendar works, just say "the book places the event X years after the formation of the Empire." Then mention the stuff from Atlas and Hemi's death. UberSoldat93 (talk) 04:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
          • Fixed.--Liverpool92 06:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
            • Please note that I've fixed the ref in the body and the date note for you. The original intention of this objection was in fact to eliminate the approximation since the new source provides a direct date for the event. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Ecks Dee

• You really need to cut down on the context a bit. Right now, the first Bio subsection barely mentions Hemi at all. 1358 ^(Talk) 23:18, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Yeah but the context was added because of other objections so if I cut it down then I would be undoing those fixed objections.--Liverpool92 20:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
    • I did some reorganizing and rewording to bring it down from three to two paragraphs. I checked with Ayre and he is fine with the changes. Please make sure you are, as well. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
      • Yes, its good.--Liverpool92 13:16, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
• "The general then sat back in his chair and expressed his pride for everyone he had fought with." This sentence, probably slightly reworded, would be a better fit in the P&T. 1358 ^(Talk) 18:39, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm kinda confused because that sentence is about Dodonna and not Hemi.--Liverpool92 20:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Hence why I recommended it be reworded. "[...] General Dodonna expressed his pride for Hemi and everyone else he had fought with." Some context is needed at the start there, maybe something like "during the battle of Whatever, just prior to the ship's destruction". 1358 ^(Talk) 20:51, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Objection(s) overridden by AgriCorps 23:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 23:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)