Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Grunta (second nomination)

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Contents

  • 1 Grunta
    • 1.1 (3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 UberSoldat
        • 1.1.2.2 Minnabird
        • 1.1.2.3 Fred strikes back
        • 1.1.2.4 Ecks Dee
        • 1.1.2.5 OOM
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Grunta

  • Nominated by: ToRsO bOy (talk) 14:44, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:
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(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

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Support

  1. ACvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
  2. Good work! LucaRoR (Talk) 16:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
  3. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 21:58, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
  4. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 04:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
  5. ACvote OOM 224 16:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Object

UberSoldat
  • Date note needs to mention Grunta, where he died, and when. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Added Grunta mention, location and when. ToRsO bOy (talk) 03:51, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I see room for subsectioning and another quote.
    • Done ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Why is Grunta's profession mentioned at the very end of the Biography on the article that is supposed to be about Grunta himself?
    • Profession moved to the first paragraph ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • In Personality and traits, I'm unable to see the relevance of the first paragraph's last sentence. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 08:32, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
    • It shows how hated Grunta was, that a relative stranger would buy Han a drink just for killing him. ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Does the novel refer to Muunilinst as a "planet"? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:25, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
    • It does. ToRsO bOy (talk) 07:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Too many sentences start with "Grunta did this...," can you introduce more variation?
    • Changed some of them. ToRsO bOy (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
  • "Grunta himself also died in the short melee when the swoop's remains crashed into him, killing him instantly." Saying he died twice here is kind of redundant.
    • Removed the last line. ToRsO bOy (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
  • "One Muun in particular, Chenik Kruun, was known to be cold-blooded and emotionless, yet it was said that he almost smiled when he heard of Grunta's demise..." How does the novel present this information? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
    • '"We race for the Muun Chenik Kruun." Haari Ikreme unleashed a rapid string of chokes and coughs that Han suspected might be laughter. "A cold-blooded, emotionless sand snake if I ever saw one, but when he heard about Grunta's death, he nearly smiled. Nothing would make him happier than beating Nal Kenuun."' ToRsO bOy (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Then it would be good to specify who's saying this in the body. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 11:25, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
        • Done ToRsO bOy (talk) 12:25, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
  • "When he was not racing, Grunta engaged in the armed robbery of individuals with the help of his Dug companions." I don't see how this is relevant in "Personality and traits," this is a biographical detail.
    • It works as an example for the line that precedes it, how Grunta had a talent for trouble. ToRsO bOy (talk) 06:49, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
  • After going through the article again, I really think the reactions to Grunta's death are much better suited for the Biography rather than its current place. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Moved. ToRsO bOy (talk) 06:49, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Minnabird
  • "information on how to contact the Kenuun" Is this character really referred to as "the Kenuun"? I didn't want to do a copy-edit in case that's correct, but his article doesn't seem to use that.
    • Thanks for spotting that. "The" removed. ToRsO bOy (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
  • The placement of Grunta's physical description feels kind of out of place, an afterthought at the end of an unrelated paragraph. Not sure what the fix is, as the description is so short; maybe stick it up at the top of the section, at the beginning of the first paragraph?
    • Done. ToRsO bOy (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I made some copy-edits, let me know if you approve. I also think you could stand to break up a few of the longer sentences, but that's really up to you. Minnabird Naboo (talk) 00:27, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
    • They look good. Thanks! 11:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • Pilaan should really be introduced as his place of residence in the first sentence of the intro.
    • Added. ToRsO bOy (talk) 14:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
      • Remember to re-read the section you change. You had "the city of..." in two consecutive sentences after the change and a duplicate link for city. I've fixed it this time, but always double check your changes to make sure they don't cause other issues that need addressing. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 21:51, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
        • Appreciate the reminder. Cheers! ToRsO bOy (talk) 03:10, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
  • You should mention Grunta's employment under Kenuun in the intro. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 22:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Added. ToRsO bOy (talk) 14:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I added an image. Feel free to remove if you don't like the way it looks. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 21:58, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
    • That works. I actually should have thought of it myself, given that I worked on the other novel characters. Thanks! ToRsO bOy (talk) 03:08, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • "After a short skirmish, the Dugs chose to retreat after one of their members was killed by Solo when he successfully shot the swoop's starboard engine, crashing it with a fiery explosion. Grunta himself also died in the short melee when the swoop's remains crashed into him." A little bit confused about the chronology here. In the first sentence, is the Dug member you mention Grunta or someone else? Do the Dugs decide to retreat after the first Dug is killed but before Grunta is killed? This part is a bit confusing right now. 1358 (Talk) 16:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I've reworded the paragraph. ToRsO bOy (talk) 16:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
OOM
  • Nice to see a Rebel Force nom. However, you'll want to vary the choice of words, such as "when" and "short," just to list a couple of examples. OOM 224 20:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I've changed some of the words you mentioned. Thanks! ToRsO bOy (talk) 17:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
  • One more thing: parts of quotes that are italicised in the book should be italicised in the article's quotes as well. OOM 224 15:08, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Done ToRsO bOy (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 16:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)