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EV-9D9

  • Nominated by: AV-6R7 (talk) 04:53, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Hopefully life wont get in the way of this char nom.

(3 ACs/9 Users/12 Total)

Support

  1. Good work! - Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:05, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
  2. Cwedin(talk) 05:18, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:57, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
  4. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 23:48, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
  5. Looks great, AV! Nivlacanator(talk) 23:09, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  6. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:08, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
  7. Aerospherology (talk) 16:29, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
  8. ACvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 22:46, June 2, 2016 (UTC)
  9. Imperators II(Talk) 07:19, July 27, 2016 (UTC)
  10. Awesome stuff! Lewisr (talk) 00:40, August 3, 2016 (UTC)
  11. ACvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:07, August 6, 2016 (UTC)
  12. Inqvote Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:16, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Cubert

It looks great, except I personally think her affiliation should be marked as the Hutt Clan rather than Jabba's palace. And if so, that should be added to the body somewhere, too. Cheers! Nivlacanator(talk) 20:53, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

  • The reason I changed it to his palace rather that the Clan is that in Ultimate Star Wars, characters affiliated with the clan have that marked in their affiliation box. Eve simply has Jabba's palace as hers. It's the same reason I changed 8D8's affiliation to that. In essence, I personally believe it should be kept the way it currently is since she is affiliated to the palace, and we don't know whether or not the Clan is still intact by that point. - AV-6R7 (talk) 21:02, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
Grunny
  • You're referencing the same ref twice in a row, should the first one just be removed or is one meant to point to a different source? "in the murky depths of the palace's dungeons[1] into a grim torture chamber[1]" grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:12, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
Clone
  • Context needed on Tatooine. Moon, planet, repair shop, a twix factory?
  • Maybe reword this sentence?: "A protocol droid, EV-9D9 assigned C-3PO to be her master's new interpreter" as it seems to read that 9D9 is the protocol droid.
  • Now, I may be wrong on this: The infobox mentions that 9D9 has feminine programming. Although feminine pronouns are used throughout the article, I think the fact that she has such programming should be mentioned more explicitly in the article, kind of like how other articles tend to mention an individual's sex even when gender pronouns are in use.
  • Again, good work with the Canon articles! --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:19, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
Cwedin
  • (Ridiculously) Minor things: "...enjoy tormenting and dismembering of other droids," should either have "the" after "enjoy," or not have "of;" in paragraph two, "drink" should be plural; in the BTS section, "Revenge of the Jedi" should be italicized.
  • In most situations where a link is a possessive noun—in this case, "his palace's"—the 's should be outside of the closing brackets.
  • Fantastic work with this article (and many others)! Cwedin(talk) 05:53, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks for reviewing! People like you are the reason the cogs of Wookieepedia continue to turn after the reboot. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:14, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
Cevan
  • The picture of EV assigning R2 to the Khetanna is from Behind the Magic, which was released before the canon reboot, so I don't think it can be used on this page. I'd recommend finding another picture from the actual movie and swapping it out with that. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 01:07, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
    • I've been meaning to ask JMAS to upload a Blu-Ray quality version of this image for some time. The current image was always intended to be a placeholder. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:15, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
      • I'll work on a suitable replacement. May not be exactly the same shot, since that is a promotional still, but it will be similar and clear. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 23:19, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
Cav
  • In what appears to a standard practice among Canon articles now, perhaps some BTS mention should be made as to when and where EV-9D9 was first identified in Legends media, as that is undoubtedly where the current Canon name was drawn from. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 14:40, November 15, 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry for the late response, but the name actually originated in the films script, as pointed out in the Bts section. I am, however, in the major rewrite of that section so that it progresses more logically and mentions the novelization in which she first appeared and her name was used. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 16:44, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • Done. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:01, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
        • I'm not really sure how the Complete BluRay set canonised EV-9D9's name, given it was released 3 years before the entire Canon/Legends split.
          • In light of this, would in universe information from the set be considered canon? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:37, December 24, 2015 (UTC)
            • Actually, I believe that we consider the set to be canon, even though it was released before the separation, along with releases of TCW. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:54, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
              • Can I see a citation for that? I thought we considered the actual films and whatnot canon, but not special features. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 13:02, December 28, 2015 (UTC)
                • The special features are canonically strange, where we consider them canon even though they were published before the establishment of the new canon, similar to the Episode Guides on StarWars.com. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:55, December 29, 2015 (UTC)
  • New stuff
  • Context for R2 and 3PO needed in intro
  • Alternating between EV-9D9 and Eve in the article doesn't read quite right. Stick to one, EV-9D9 as the formal designation, throughout the article.
  • You have a redlink in the Sources. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 00:29, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
    • I unfortunately don't own this issue, so I'll have to find someone else the write it. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:37, December 24, 2015 (UTC)
      • Nevermind, I just had a variant cover. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:25, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

More new stuff:

  • Affiliation: Jabba's Palace - is there something more specific to link to here, say Jabba himself or a canon article for his criminal empire?
    • I considered replacing that with Jabba Desilijic Tiure, but EV-9D9's entry in USW specifically says Jabba's Palace while another specifically says Jabba the Hutt, so I assumed there was more type of distinction. In addition, it seems that the idea of Jabba having an individual empire has been consolidated into the Hutt cartel. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:38, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
  • Also, are there categories for the members of Jabba's court/organization? - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 23:15, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • References in the intro? Bad.
  • See if you can rework this part of the intro somehow: "[...] until she was reprogrammed to enjoy the torture and dismemberment of other droids. She was acquired by Jabba the Hutt and assigned to oversee the droid pool in his palace, where she tortured her fellow droids with the assistance of the smelter droid 8D8 to keep them in line." Specifically, I recommend ending the first sentence of the intro before you mention reprogramming and then somehow combining the rest into two sentences to avoid the run-on in the second sentence right now.
  • You're more or less only using "she" throughout the intro. Please vary it.
  • More to come once these are fixed. 1358 (Talk) 21:43, January 26, 2016 (UTC)
  • "When R2-D2 and C-3PO, an astromech droid and a protocol droid respectively, arrived as gifts for her master from the Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker, EV-9D9 assigned them positions in her master's droid pool." This sentence reads a bit weird, specifically the "gifts for her master from the Jedi" is really choppy. I suggest rearranging the sentence to read something like "When Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker gifted Jabba R2 and C-3PO, EV-9D9 assigned...".
  • Check your image caption punctuation. Sentences in present tense can be complete as well, requiring punctuation.
  • The second paragraph in the biography is very choppy and jumpy; lots of shes and hes and theys doing things and it's kind of hard to follow who is being referred to. R2 isn't introduced as an astromech droid so when an astromech is suddenly mentioned it really sticks out. I suggest you rewrite parts of the paragraph for a smoother read. 1358 (Talk) 17:31, February 15, 2016 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • If the "moisture vaporator mechanic" stuff from the junior novelization is contradictory and therefore non-canon, why is it in the intro? Imperators II(Talk) 07:04, July 27, 2016 (UTC)
Floyd
  • I'm not seeing a timeframe anywhere in the article. Should have one in both the intro and body.
    • I'm using the Battle of Endor as the point of reference.
  • Context on Jabba in the intro.
    • Done.
  • You also never mention anywhere in the article that these events take place on Tatooine. IFYLOFD (Talk) 03:45, August 1, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done, though I'm regulating it to her bio. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:39, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 03:21, August 6, 2016 (UTC)


  • Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know includes an image of EVE-9D9 with the caption "EVE-9D9 supervisor droid". I'm not entirely sure if this is meant to be the model or the individual droid, as it's on a page of different droids some of which are identified by individual name and some of which are identified by model. I'll leave it up to you if you want to include this or make an article for the model, but you may want to consult others first. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:54, October 28, 2015 (UTC)
    • The reason I haven't created an article under that name is because the page also has the height of the IG-88 assassin droid listed when talking specifically referring to IG-88'when the model itself is actually called the IG assassin droid. Should it be called that again, I will write up an article on it and add the appropriate information here. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 05:09, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
      • That was my thinking as well. I'll remove the link from the book's appearances. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:37, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
        • I've contacted Bray on Twitter on the matter. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 21:18, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
          • Bray wasn't sure, but considering the fact that every other named droid on the page didn't have their class identified after their name, and that IG-88 assassin droid was the IG assassin droid's name in Legends, I am beginning to come around to the idea that EV-9D9 may be the models name. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:17, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  • The Databank identifies EV-A4-D as an "EV-series medical droid." Would this apply here? Cwedin(talk) 22:51, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
    • I don't think so, as 9D9 is consistently classified as a supervisor droid. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:01, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
  • Ok various new info from the new character encyclopedia.
    • "EV-9D9 added a third eye to herself to "see" droid pain." The label on the image of her describes the third eye as custom fitted.
    • Another image caption points to her head and says she has a degraded logic centre.
    • Her limbs are described as manipulator arms.
    • "EV-9D9 is not the only EV unit with the programming defect that causes her cruel behaviour. Many have the same flaw, but EV-9D9 was one of the few to escape the mass recall. EV-9D9 now relishes her role as task master of all droids at the palace. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:45, March 30, 2016 (UTC)
    • So her entry is identical to the one in the original edition? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 12:53, March 30, 2016 (UTC)
      • Sadly I don't have access to the original encyclopedia, but unless there's anything drastically different that I haven't mentioned then I'd assume so, yes. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:14, March 30, 2016 (UTC)
        • Could I ask you for some advice? This info will make it impossible to have info from the new novelization of Return of the Jedi in the Biography section, so would you recommend that I put that content in the Bts section? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 20:53, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
          • Hmm, is there no way both could be true, she could have a quirk but also have been reprogrammed? If not then I don't know which source takes precedence. I guess since the Encyclopedia was checked by Pablo himself that's probably the better source? Ayrehead02 (talk) 22:54, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote Idle objections. 1358 (Talk) 21:58, February 11, 2016 (UTC)
    • Sorry about missing those objections. I'll get it done right now. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 22:09, February 11, 2016 (UTC)
      • I'm not going to mince my words here, and this goes for not only you but also other nominators on this page. It is simply unacceptable that it takes someone who is otherwise active on the site two weeks to notice and address objections on their nominations. It is not the AC's job to babysit nominators and make sure they are aware of objections—that is solely up to the nominator. The wiki software offers several tools to assist nominators in keeping up with changes to the GAN and specific nomination pages. Especially when you, AV, have four current nominations, it would be in your interest to closely monitor the entire page. This is also the main reason why some nominations seem to stay on the GAN for ages. Personally (and I know the other ACs prefer this as well) I avoid any nominations with open objections, so if you and others want a smooth process, please monitor your nominations and address objections as quickly as possible. Please see to it that this doesn't happen again. Thank you. 1358 (Talk) 13:06, February 12, 2016 (UTC)