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EE-4 carbine rifle

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Support

  1. Nice work. JangFett (Talk) 13:52, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
  2. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:26, August 29, 2018 (UTC)
  3. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 11:55, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Fan26 (Talk) 19:42, October 1, 2018 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:59, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Nice work. Imperators II(Talk) 23:56, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
  7. ACvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:51, October 24, 2018 (UTC)

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Grunny
  • The History section has a link to Bomb, which is effectively a redlink since the page is currently just a broken redirect to the Legends page. So, I'd say that probably needs to be properly created if you're linking to it. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:38, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
Uncle Jangeth
  • "The EE-4 blaster rifle was a powerful type of blaster that was capable of discharging a red-colored, two-round spread burst fire with a medium range." This may seem nitpickey, but the placement of the word choices seem odd here. For me, the "two-round spread burst fire" and the "medium range" doesn't work. I would mention the red-colored medium range first before getting into the the burst of fire since that's pretty unique. What do you think?
    • I guess you're right, my English usually requires a copy-edit and rewording. How does it look now? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 22:06, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • "[...]manufactured by BlasTech Industries." That's pretty important. I'd mention it earlier in the description.
    • Actually, there isn't any source that says the EE-4 was manufactured by BlasTech. Since its predecessor model is from BlasTech, I thought it was worth mentioning later in the description. Do you think it should nonetheless be mentioned earlier? Or does this placement make the reader think that the EE-4 was also from BlasTech? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:32, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
      • No, I was under the impression that the EE-4 was manufactured by BlasTech. Seeing that you've corrected the issue, the mentioning of BlasTech acts as proper context for the EE-3 model, so I'd leave it be JangFett (Talk) 13:52, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
  • "While the EE-3 focused on precision and range, the EE-4 was more effective at close range and had a superior rate of fire with its shorter and stubby barrel. On the other hand, these alterations caused a reduction in the rifle's accuracy at range and cooling power in comparison to its predecessor." Is this from your point of view or did the source actually state this? I'm curious.
    • The quote in the Behind the scenes is pretty much everything we know about the rifle, it's just reworded. Also, the cooling power comparison comes from the weapon statistics in the game, and the EE-4's is the image in Bts. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:32, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'll give it another look later. JangFett (Talk) 19:09, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
QGJ
  • After losing the Imperials, Leia Organa was informed that his fellow rebel friend, Luke Skywalker, was abducted by the Hutt crime lord Grakkus on the moon Nar Shaddaa. You've already introduced both Organa and Skywalker previously. There's no need to address them by their full names here and the whole "fellow rebel friend" context seems out of place anyway.
  • In the same section, you should clarify that Nar Shaddaa and the "Smugglers' Moon" is the same thing. The two different names can be confusing for new readers.
    • Replaced it with "notorious moon" to not prolong the sentence. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:25, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure that the last sentence of the Bts is necessary. A character can own multiple weapons at the same time. If there's a source that states "Sana Starros always uses the EE-4," then the discrepancy should be noted. Right now though, it doesn't seem notable enough for me. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 06:58, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • I actually think you could expand the intro a bit, it's quite short compared to the body right now. Maybe a line about Starros' usage of the rifle would be appropriate. 1358 (Talk) 16:47, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • You can definitely add a couple more images to the body. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:06, September 15, 2018 (UTC)
  • Objection(s) overridden by AgriCorps 22:48, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • You use the word "stubby" to describe the barrel twice in the "Description" section. Could you use a synonym for one of them?
    • I'm not a native speaker, but I guess the word "stumpy" is a synonym for "stubby." TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:17, September 20, 2018 (UTC)
      • "Stumpy" is kind of a weird and informal word. Try and use something more professional and formal. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 02:07, September 27, 2018 (UTC)
        • What about "chunky?" TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:14, September 27, 2018 (UTC)
          • I'd say "chunky" is still a very informal word, and it means more about width than length. Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to just using "short." MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 23:06, October 1, 2018 (UTC)
            • Oh, thank you for saving me from the trouble. I have literally looked into three dictionaries. :) TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:23, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
  • The first sentence of the second paragraph of "Description" uses a semi-colon, which currently makes the sentence nonsensical, at least to me. That might not be the punctuation you are wanting there. A semi-colon should be in a sense connecting two sentences that contain related thoughts into one sentence. The content after the semi-colon cannot be separated into its own sentence in this case.
  • The word "amidst" requires that you specify what the grip was located in the middle of, usually being plural. I think maybe a rewording is necessary.
    • Oops, it shoud be fine now. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:17, September 20, 2018 (UTC)
      • I've changed it to "in the middle of." I just don't think "amidst" is the word we want there.
  • "Which" should be preceded by a comma. I've fixed it, but keep this in mind in the future.
  • I'll continue on through "History" and "Behind the scenes" once you've had a chance to look at these. :) MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 03:04, September 20, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • The SW.com archive link in the Sources list isn't working.
  • Reviewing note: "Whilst" is chiefly a British-English term; the American-English version, which you should be using in Wookieepedia articles, is "while"
  • Is it Starros' or Starros's, because you use both versions in consecutive sentences. Try checking what other sources use if the comics are no indication. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:38, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
    • I have just checked all comic books featuring Starros, the novel Last Shot, and made a Google search for StarWars.com, Marvel.com and ea.com, but found no use of Starros' or Starros's in any of them. I see that the article now only has Starros' after your edit, so I'll leave that as it is. By the way, during my Google search, I've found an EA article that explicitly makes the connection between the Marvel comics and Battlefront, so I've changed a reference in Bts, and added a minor info I'd missed earlier. Please take a look. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:56, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
      • Also, I've just noticed that you changed Unnamed planet, Monsua Nebula to Monsua Nebula planet in the infobox. I'm not sure if you read the comic or not, but the issue itself uses that identifier, "unnamed planet." I'm OK if you still think it would be better as it is, just wanted to give a heads up. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:08, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
        • Regarding the Starros possessive, one thing you could do is check the audiobook version of Last Shot and see how the narrator pronounces her last name; if the name ends in an S sound, Starros's would be appropriate, and if it ends in a Z sound, Starros' would be appropriate. This is "encouraged" by the Manual of Style. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:36, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
          • It sounds like an "S" to me, so I changed them to Starros's. Just to make sure, I've cut the pronunciation from Last Shot audiobook and uploaded it to Wookieepedia. Please take a look. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 04:56, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
        • Regarding the planet, you're welcome to change it to "unnamed" in this article. I would additionally suggest explicitly mentioning within that planet article that it was literally unnamed in-universe to clear up any confusion. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:36, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
  • Going along with Imperators' objection about referencing the blaster's color, is it really necessary to use an extra reference note here just for the color? It certainly appears that the game can be used to source it being black, which makes that addition unnecessary. Sourcing consistently between the infobox and article body is fine, but then you should just change the reference in the infobox, not this paragraph. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:41, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
Imp-2 blaster rifle
  • In BTS, do we really need ref [1] for Empire, Alliance, and New Republic? Does BFII not feature these playable factions? Imperators II(Talk) 20:30, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
    • Actually yes, the New Republic is not a playable faction in Battlefront II's multiplayer, the Battle of Jakku and other New Republic battles are campaign-only. Since the specialist troopers—and the overall trooper class system—are a multiplayer thing, you can't wield an EE-4 as a NR soldier in SWBF II. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 23:48, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
  • Also, I'm not seeing a need to reference the blaster's color to different sources in infobox (Star Wars 6) and body (BF). Imperators II(Talk) 20:37, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 18:57, October 24, 2018 (UTC)