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Darrb

  • Nominated by: NBDani (talk) 21:18, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:
  • WookieeProject (optional): Resistance

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

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Support

  1. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:35, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
  2. YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (talk) 18:29, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
  3. ACvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:21, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
  4. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 21:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Good work! OOM 224 22:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Object

Yakov
  • Welcome to the GAN, Dani!!! Glad to see you here. Quick things you'll have to fix: <ref> tags go after periods, commas, and other punctuation; not before them. -- YakovChaimTzvi ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (talk) 21:21, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Thank you for the welcome :) Done NBDani (talk) 17:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Also, every paragraph, bullet point or table row needs at least one citation. -- YakovChaimTzvi ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (talk) 21:21, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Not including the infobox, the intro should not contain citations. Everything stated in the article's intro should appear in the body, with an appropriate citation. I think you're good on that as long as his bio mentions selling fruits and veggies. If that's the case, you can remove the citations from the intro. -- YakovChaimTzvi ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (talk) 21:25, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Removed the citations in Intro and made it clear in Bio that the wares were fruits/vegetables. NBDani (talk) 21:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Vergence
  • The intro is a little short, and doesn't describe the events mentioned in the bio section.
    • Expanded. Thoughts? NBDani (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Please split the second sentence of the BTS.
    • Done. NBDani (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Reviewing note: for future reference, there should always be a space between the intro and the bio section. Also, image captions shouldn't end in a period if they aren't a full sentence. VergenceScatter (talk) 21:46, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Thank you for this information, trying to break the habit of the need to remove "unnecessary" spaces. NBDani (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Manoof
  • Just with your referencing, each reference needs to support ALL of the information preceding it. The first sentence of the biography for example attributes all the information to ref 4, You should have other references to identify what said he was male, what said he was Gabdorin, what said he was a vendor in the vargo spaceport, etc. Same goes for the actual names, so if the episode doesn't actually call it the Vargo Spaceport, you'd have to separately reference it. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I Think I added (and removed) references in the right places. Let me know what you think please. The Missing Agent ID'd him as a Vendor and the town as Vargo Spaceport. Breakout ID'd the planet as a planet but no name and Darrb as his name and male gender. I included the Databank for the planet for the name. NBDani (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
      • Much better, just check that you're not using DIFFERENT references needlessly. For example, the last paragraph for BTS stood out as I read it recently and can be fully referenced to reference 7, so you wouldn't need reference 1 in the middle (it may be that it can be completely referenced to 1). This is per point 6 of WP:Sourcing Rules. I'll go into each reference in detail once this is done :) almost there! Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 04:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
        • Really good catch. I looked at where else I used the Youtube link and found I could use Bucket's List there too so the Youtube is gone completely.NBDani (talk) 10:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
          • Ok I'm happy with it all bar one. Just some consistency on what you use to reference things and keeping that same reference for that thing. So the infobox has a different reference for his gender than in the article body, so the infobox should be updated to match. Don't forget to add the full reference when you move it so you don't get a broken ref (I've done that a few times). Just check the others are consistent too (ie across the sections/infobox) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
            • I switched all physical description notes from Bucket's List to The Missing Agent, including species. I had to add a The Missing Agent to another point in the BTS (source for appearing in the 12th episode, prior it was sourced to the episode's air date source)
  • Can we add a location of the Vargo Spaceport? Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I specify it's on the Planet Varkana. That's all the info available on it.
      • That's fine :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 07:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
        • To appease Jocasta NBDani (talk) 16:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Can we get a species for Kaz and Yeagar? Can that use an existing reference or something else? Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Added Human for Kaz and Yeager. Mirialan for Synara. Not sure if it should be Occupation>Species>Name or Species>Occupation>Name.
      • Just tweak the wording to maybe say "Human resistance members Kaz and Yeager, along with their astromech droid and mirialan..." and then maybe run it through a word processor to check spelling/grammar. Always worth a check when you do substantial edits throughout :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 07:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
        • I struggled to find a good phrasing of this sentence that included their species and looked to other GANs for inspiration. It seemed for characters passing by the species weren't mentioned just the occupation. I think on that basis and just the general wordiness of that sentence with the species included, I should not include the species descriptor for Kaz, Jarek, and Synara. -- I have run the article through an outside word processor and caught some more errors, thank you. NBDani (talk) 17:34, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
  • "following a resistance distress call" sounds like the distress call shifted locations. What does the actual source say? Is tracking a better word? Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Kaz asks CB-23 to hone in on the signal. I changed the wording to match
      • Perfect
        • To appease Jocasta NBDani (talk) 16:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
  • "could hide in the his home" needs a grammar check ;) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Missed this when changing non-gendered wording to he/him. Fixed. NBDani (talk) 15:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
      • Easy to do :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 07:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I can't remember the episode but do the stormtroopers pass and then Darrb stomps on the foot or is there a bit of time between the two events? Article indicates some time passed Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I removed the word eventually. NBDani (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Can this be explained any better? "shot the door open" could mean they shot the control panel and the door opened, they shot the actual door and blew it open, etc Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • I reworded it (it was the control panel) and expanded too. NBDani (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
  • "He tried to signal that the spies were behind them" Try to drop the he and them as its not 100% clear on first reading who "he" or "them" is. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Reworded.
  • P&T can be expanded to note his personality traits in how he treated the spies and the stormtroopers. Was he gruff? rude? friendly? Can also drop the double ref that is currently there, one episode is sufficient to establish what he looked like :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Expanded. NBDani (talk) 14:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Context in BTS for Star Wars Resistance being a comic, movie, tv show, book? Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Context and more added. NBDani (talk) 14:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
  • This article has some BTS relevant info and needs to be added as an IMO https://www.starwars.com/news/buckets-list-extra-breakout-star-wars-resistance Amleto should be linked here. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
  • You've introduced a redirect in the BTS with Basic, which also redirects to the Legends article. Need to replace it like so: [[Galactic Basic Standard|Basic]]. If the above link isn't orange, check preferences -> Gadgets as there's an option to highlight redirects :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 07:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Fixed and Gadgets updated (huge thank you) NBDani (talk) 15:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
  • I've tweaked the P&T, so just check it's still correct to the sources and you're happy with it :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • That intro is definitely too small at the moment for the article size.
    • Expanded. NBDani (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
  • The infobox image is fairly low quality, any chance you can improve it?
    • I'm unable to take screenshots of D+ at the moment but am in pursuit of an alternative, stay tuned. NBDani (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Done!!! NBDani (talk) 15:58, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
      • To be honest I think the other shot worked better and had better lighting, the issue I had with it was the resolution. Can you try to get a high-quality version of that screenshot? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 16:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
  • The Varkana Databank entry is listed in Sources, but Darrb is not mentioned there from what I can see. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:13, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Sorry, had to use it as a reference and put it there without thinking it through. Fixed.NBDani (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
  • The links to home and vendor incorrect, please remove them. Merchant works for vendor, though.
    • Correct. NBDani (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
  • The year should be mentioned in the intro.
    • Added and expanded with the new info from the date ref. NBDani (talk) 12:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Just because Station to Station is before SW:GE doesn't mean it's in 34 ABY. The date note will need elaboration.
    • This is my first Date ref I built my hand. Please let me know how it stands. NBDani (talk) 12:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC) I got ahead of myself in my excitement and realized I forgot to check these sources to confirm the dates. Working on that atm NBDani (talk) 12:43, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Verified each one! NBDani (talk) 13:12, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Who are they carrying here? "carrying him inside without approval."
    • Changed and clarified another pronoun before this one as well. NBDani (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
  • The {{Cite_web}} should not be listed in Sources either. If it mentions Darrb it can be moved to an External links section, but if not it should be removed.
    • Removed. NBDani (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
  • (Reviewing note) Here's my copy-edit of the article. Be sure to watch out for underlinking next time. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 22:29, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Thank you for this lesson, I have ideas to prevent underlinking for myself in the future. NBDani (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • For starters, I'd like to see an Equipment section here.
    • Created.NBDani (talk) 13:42, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
  • The intro should elaborate more on Xiono's encounter with Darrb at the stall, as it currently awkwardly jumps to their next meeting.
    • Expanded. NBDani (talk) 11:06, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Those images from the show are rather blurry, please replace them with higher quality shots. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:04, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Uploaded them both. I'm leaving the image request in Image requests until you confirm it's satisfactory. NBDani (talk) 12:49, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
      • The infobox image is much better now, the body image not so much. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 12:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
        • User:Manoof was able to get me a better shot for the body as well. NBDani (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
  • "Resistance members Kazuda Xiono, Jarek Yeager, Xiono's droid; CB-23; and the pirate Synara San traveled to the spaceport from the Colossus space station while homing in on a Resistance distress signal." Much of this isn't really relevant to Darrb's page. For example, what reason is there to specify every Resistance member here if only one of them interacts with Darrb? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Removed the extras NBDani (talk) 12:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • In your date ref, you give more information than is needed to reach the conclusion. We only need to know the dates for "Station to Station" and The Rise of Skywalker. We don't need to know the date for "The Escape." MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 08:59, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
    • If I understand fully, I've corrected it. NBDani (talk) 10:01, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
OOM
  • "before being silenced by Xiono and Kev" — how was he silenced? Can use some clarification here.
    • Clarified they covered his mouth.NBDani (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
  • How many stormtroopers were there at his home? That would be useful for the Biography's last paragraph.
    • I clarified 2 troopers were chasing them in the 2nd paragraph and reiterated in the 3rd paragraph. NBDani (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
  • The P&T section could mention that he spoeke a non-Basic language. Similarly, does the episode indicate that he could understand Basic? Or that other characters could understand the language he spoke? Those would be pieces of info worth noting if true. OOM 224 21:25, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
    • Nothing he says or the others say is directly responded to by him or the others. When he shouts for the spies to leave his language very much sounds like "out" and he is gesturing for the two to exit. So I'm cautious to say they understood whatever language he was speaking 100%. He also asked what was happening when they carried him inside, either indicating he didn't understand them or didn't understand why they needed to hide. Still cautious to say he understood them 100%. The Bucket's list says "Although the citizen does not speak English ("Basic")" which also doesn't clarify if he does or does not understand Basic. I've notated he spoke a non-Basic language.NBDani (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
      • Superb reasoning. That's all good then. It's best to be cautious, as you said, and I'd add that communication without understanding spoken languages could still convey meaning and all. OOM 224 22:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Comments

  • Reviewing notes: When pipelinking, please ensure that the page being linked is capitalized to match that title. Also, please format film titles properly; the "Episode" part shouldn't be italicized. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 09:04, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Thank you very much. NBDani (talk) 11:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 22:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)